The Magic of God - Infinite intelligence

[Breakingthewall]

On 10/7/2026 at 0:29 PM, Inliytened1 said:

Just imagine being able to create entire worlds and then forget them

You are implying that god is an entity with a will that does things for a reason. That would be limited. It's antrophormize the reality. If god is unlimited it wouldn't have intention, or if you prefer it would have all the intentions, that's the same than no particular intention.

If anything arises it's just because it's possible, god or the absolute being is absolute potential, not a person who does anything and then forget it. 

Edited 17 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Inliytened1]

59 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You are implying that god is an entity with a will that does things for a reason. That would be limited. It's antrophormize the reality. If god is unlimited it wouldn't have intention, or if you prefer it would have all the intentions, that's the same than no particular intention.

If anything arises it's just because it's possible, god or the absolute being is absolute potential, not a person who does anything and then forget it. 

Why cant it happen the way I described it without an entity but just by being possible or infinite.  Why would it require a finite biased entity.   In fact it would encourage the opposite, especially the part that destroys and creates anew (forgetting)

Edited 16 hours ago by Inliytened1

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2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

You are implying that god is an entity with a will

For me, God’s will is grace. Therefore, ultimate reality is incredibly positive. It is not simply empty, as we have already established but filled with the grace of God.

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3 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Why cant it happen the way I described it without an entity but just by being possible or infinite.  Why would it require a finite biased entity.   In fact it would encourage the opposite, especially the part that destroys and creates anew (forgetting)

Then it wouldn't be God as we use to define it, it would be blind power that happens, and reality wouldn't be a dream in the mind of God but the manifestation of this power. I think it's very different 

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2 hours ago, Grateful Dead said:

For me, God’s will is grace. Therefore, ultimate reality is incredibly positive. It is not simply empty, as we have already established but filled with the grace of God.

You could say that the drive of reality is positive in the sense that it is, it exists. It has a positive vector, direction: being. That's absolute, without opposite. 

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42 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You could say that the drive of reality is positive in the sense that it is, it exists. It has a positive vector, direction: being. That's absolute, without opposite. 

Right and what you call "drive," I call "will." Or do you make a distinction there?

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Just now, Grateful Dead said:

Right and what you call "drive," I call "will." Or do you make a distinction there?

Will implies choice, drive implies inevitability. If there is choice there is an entity that make decisions, if there is drive there is absolute direction that happens because there are not restrictions or limits 

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5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Will implies choice, drive implies inevitability. If there is choice there is an entity that make decisions, if there is drive there is absolute direction that happens because there are not restrictions or limits 

Good point. I think you are right. When it comes to absolute Reality/God, it is indeed true that "drive" is a more precise description of the directional, boundless inevitability of being. 

Will is more of a term for the relative realm in which we can align our will with the drive of reality.

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1 hour ago, Grateful Dead said:

Will is more of a term for the relative realm in which we can align our will with the drive of reality.

1 hour ago, Grateful Dead said:

 

Exactly, I see it in the same way. Will would be the drive of form, conditioned by the infinity of cause-and-effect relationships that create and condition it. Form is born and dies; it is not absolute, it is relation, and it's drive is relative, it's choice because could be one or another.

What we call God, or existence, is neither born nor dies; it simply is. Therefore, its only will is to be. If your will is absolute, then it is not will, it is an absolute vector.

I don't see how it could be otherwise; any other possibility implies relation, and by definition, God is that which has no opposite, the non-relative, that is to say, the absolute. Relationship are possibilities that happens in the absolute drive of being. The drive of being never started, never will finish, then it wont arrive to any place, just cycles of creation and destruction following the equation of reality that could be described as 0=1-1. (As a metaphor)

1 hour ago, Grateful Dead said:

Will is more of a term for the relative realm in which we can align our will with the drive of reality.

I also see this in that way. Even there is no destiny our will must be aligned with the drive of reality, just because any other option is resistance. Going with the flow is easy, going against it is unnecessary friction. Not smart option.

Edited 11 hours ago by Breakingthewall