Good dog training

[Hojo]

This is good example of how to train an animal. The human can control these animals easily if they treat them like humans. The animal dosent know anything and this man forces them to go through the motions of understanding with no language. You can see when he pushes the dog down the dog puts its tail to cover its genitals and the man is observant enough to understand that its trying to protect itself. He forces the tail away from the penis and puts it behind the legs as an additional form of domination over the animal that most wont see. Like a you cant hide from this you are exposed and in danger of me pay attention.

 

 

Edited Monday at 09:40 PM by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Cesar Millan's training methods were debunked by animal behaviourists.

[Monster Energy]

The video isn’t available in my country.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

The Alpha Dog Method that Cesar uses has been shown as an incorrect interpretation and application of dominance theory & hierarchies in wolves and dogs. Even the original scientist Dave Mech has renegged on much of the original work done in the field:

https://davemech.org/wolf-news-and-information/

Cesar Millan's methods heavily traumitise dogs and lead to deactivation / freeze response - which can appear like a correction of behaviour. But the dogs revert and end up worse after they are removed from the activating circumstances. 

Both of my vets were heavily against his methods.

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori Maru Good thing vets arent dog trainers or dog psychologists. 

You need to traumatize the animal to train it. Training is traumatizing the animal. This is a good way to traumatize the dog.

If the dog goes back to its old ways after that means that the people arent doing it as we can see it works in the videos.

And we can see it works in his own dogs.

If you have an animal you must dominate and traumatize it to make it in society and a house with rules.

Its just about how you can get it to do what you want it to do with less force possible. 

His ways of training are great.

They used to just beat them. None of what I see him doing is abusive.

This is a good way to simulate beating the dog without hurting it.

If it becomes more calm after then thats the whole point. The point is to deactivate the dog.

If it becomes reactivated when it leaves the training that has nothing to do with the training if it was deactivated when it left.

 

If you read a review of a dog traininer and it went
i dont like this dog trainer when i brought it to him it came back calm and obediant but then it just started right back up with its old activity but worse.

What would you think about that?

Edited 7 hours ago by Hojo

[UnbornTao]

SIT!

Good boy.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Hojo fuck no lol

Disagree. Won't change my mind. Owned 6 dogs.

Not saying all Cesars shit is wrong, but the core of what he does is. Traumatizing an animal to train it is fucked. Dogs respond to discipline but his methods are fucked.

He's just an entertainer - and he fell back in that when he was in that German court case.

 

 

[Hojo]

@Natasha Tori Maru Its like you have to be traumatized to learn how to read silently in your mind. Its learning you have to be traumatized to learn anything.

Hes not hurting the animal at all.

If you dont know what it feels like to get punched in the face you wont learn to not be outrageous. You wont even know that that type of pain exists until it happens to you. You have to get punched in the face to learn and thats traumatic.

What hes doing is traumatizing the dog without hurting it at all.

Edited 4 hours ago by Hojo

[Natasha Tori Maru]

🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

As long as you present the dog with an optimal enviroment and just being able to afford optimal lifestyle for it in general, and you pick the right breed, then you won't need to do much training beyond the most rudimentary, such as sit, come here, bring X thing to me. There also wouldn't exist problems in their behaviour either, since most of those are rooted in the fact that people who are living in shitty ass, or suboptimal living conditions, decide to get a dog - and a wrong breed as well. They should also not be taught tricks for your entertainment but only stuff that's helpfull for them and their interactions with you and the outside world, let them live their own simple existence. I don't like a lot of dog people very much for this reason; not only cause their dog is their entire identity, but also cause of their inner movation for teaching their dogs all that shit, going to competitions etc. etc. Just to do some clown ass shit for your bored ass lol

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@NewKidOnTheBlock The volume of people I interact with having issues with their dogs are a result of a lot of what you illustrate - wrong breed for the circumstances.

Fucking Border Collies or Kelpies in small apartments getting walked once a day for 30 minutes and left alone the rest of the time? I mean what the fuck? Some people malfunction in general. I've owned working breeds and they need to be given tasks. Their training is tailored. The female we had would literally sit and stare at you, waiting be be assigned a task... loved that dog 

Some dogs do have rage and psychological issues. And they can be traumatised, ending up reactive.

You speak sense many just... don't have.