Jim Newman is really good.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Indescribable mystery “ is a separate realization than the absolute self .  

It’s not a separate realisation. It’s the same realisation appearing as a different concept.

All these words used to describe the ineffable are known concepts, known by the only knowing there is, which is one singular absolute knowing. Knower and known are One.

You are the singular one absolute knowing that cannot be known, because “one knowing’ is by definition solipsistic. 
 

This one singular absolute knowing is never separate from the concept known. Concepts know nothing, and that’s what you are. You are the knowing that cannot be known. There’s no other knowing.

 

[Someone here]

28 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

It’s not a separate realisation. It’s the same realisation appearing as a different concept.

All these words used to describe the ineffable are known concepts, known by the only knowing there is, which is one singular absolute knowing. Knower and known are One.

You are the singular one absolute knowing that cannot be known, because “one knowing’ is by definition solipsistic. 
 

This one singular absolute knowing is never separate from the concept known. Concepts know nothing, and that’s what you are. You are the knowing that cannot be known. There’s no other knowing.

 

Very well ..and how exactly is any of that going to help me get a redhead American girlfriend? 😂

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

If you're laughing something good is happening 

I agree! I just see it as, its not that he is doing it to me, but already I had it in me to be able to resonate with him, some degree of openness but also connection because I'm still perceiving him as "someone" from my pov on some level, although different from how I percieve people in everyday life ofc because its a totally different presence dominating the expression

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[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I agree! I just see it as, its not that he is doing it to me, but already I had it in me to be able to resonate with him, some degree of openness but also connection because I'm still perceiving him as "someone" from my pov on some level, although different from how I percieve people in everyday life ofc because its a totally different presence dominating the expression

Yeah, when I listen to him, I would almost compare it to a type of psychedelic, it's like I can feel an unravelling happening in the background, without any effort on my part.

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Yeah, complete cessation of the sense of a separate self. 

Thats the impression I get too. 

[Sugarcoat]

4 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

For me his message is also very similar to Leo's teaching about "look at your hand".

Nah Jim is more simple, he includes the human experience as something reality does, and theres nothing you really can do to end that, Leo is kinda suggesting some action step you can take 

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[Wilhelm44]

16 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Nah Jim is more simple, he includes the human experience as something reality does, and theres nothing you really can do to end that, Leo is kinda suggesting some action step you can take 

Okay, but the "look at your hand" exercise of Leo, is also pointing to what Jim is saying about: It's already here now