This is what You and Existence is

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

God creates thru the finite.

You can say that but do you actually understand what god is and how it creates ? 

[Joseph Maynor]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

You can say that but do you actually understand what god is and how it creates ? 

Of course.  

[Mellowmarsh]

2 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

God creates thru the finite.

In your elevated view..How is that statement in disagreement with what Advaita is pointing to? 
 

And it’s no good assuming I’ve already made up my mind, far from it, you’re completely missing the mark by believing that. It’s a very closed minded statement to make on behalf of another. I’m very open to new ideas actually. 
 

I’ve heard it before actually, it’s not uncommon for people to say there’s so much more to spiritually than just being stuck in the Advaita trap. 
Don’t assume you know my opinions, and then close me off like any closed minded person would do. I’ve always been very honest and open with you from day one. If I hadn’t have been fully open, you would be on my ignore list, but that’s not something I would ever dream of doing to anyone. Because I’m just not that inclined to think I’m above other peoples ideas, to the point that other people’s ideas deserve absolutely none of my attention. Quite the contrary, I’m very open to listening, and very much that I’m always under construction.
But it all makes sense to me now, when you have made up your mind about people being stuck in the Advaita trap. Then of course your going to say things like I don’t want to answer to them, and say no thanks and stuff like that.

 

[Joseph Maynor]

@Mellowmarsh  I kept asking you to explain your duality between the infinite and finite many times and you never answered.  Let's not make this personal.  Your post is very condescending.  You also called me a fraud, let's not forget that!  If you are genuinely coming in good faith, then I will respect that and will honor that too to the extent that I can with you.

Edited 2 hours ago by Joseph Maynor

[Mellowmarsh]

9 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

@Mellowmarsh  I kept asking you to explain your duality between the infinite and finite many times and you never answered.  Let's not make this personal.  Your post is very condescending.  You also called me a fraud, let's not forget that!

You’re taking the fraud statement personally. All you had to do is ask for clarification on the fraud statement posited.

I understand a human is a finite entity and that the infinite cannot know the finite, that’s what I meant by that imposter statement, it was never intended to be personal.

As for my explanation regarding the duality between the infinite and finite, all I can think of right now is (Creation Ex Nihilo)

 Is that a fair explanation in your opinion?

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You’re taking the fraud statement personally. All you had to do is ask for clarification on the fraud statement posited.

I understand a human is a finite entity and that the infinite cannot know the finite, that’s what I meant by that imposter statement, it was never intended to be personal.

As for my explanation regarding the duality between the infinite and finite, all I can think of right now is (Creation Ex Nihilo)

 Is that a fair explanation in your opinion?

But calling someone a fraud is personal, sorry.

[Joseph Maynor]

@Mellowmarsh  I think we have deep disagreement in our respective spiritualities.  We are probably never going to agree, and I expect that and honor that.  I'm not in competition with you to determine who is right.  I want you to do your thing.  

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

But calling someone a fraud is personal, sorry.

It’s not my problem, if you’re going to believe what others label you as being who you believe you are, and take it very seriously and literally, and personally, then that’s your problem. Not mine.

You take yourself way too seriously, that’s why you shut people down, that’s why you hide some of your comments. 
You must already understand that the totality arises as both the impersonal and the personal and that there’s zero difference between the two, unless you’re stuck in literal zone where you fraudulently believe a concept is your true self.

[Joseph Maynor]

@Mellowmarsh  Stop arguing with me.  I will stop arguing with you.  We are not compatible.  I could say some things that happened too but I won't.  I want to get out of this personal loop with you.  If you want to prove me wrong, that's on you.  I'm used to that, but I don't want to get mired down in someone who just wants to criticize me.  I would rather engage with someone who is open to what I have to share.  I'm sure you feel the same way about what you have to share.  You seem to be in a different stage of life to me too.  That matters.  I'm in the householder stage of life.  I'm focused on things like starting a successful business and further implementing my life purpose.  Different values, different life conditions.

Edited 1 hour ago by Joseph Maynor

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

@Mellowmarsh  I think we have deep disagreement in our respective spiritualities.  We are probably never going to agree, and I expect that and honor that.  I'm not in competition with you to determine who is right.  I want you to do your thing.  

This is your problem you overthink everything, always nitpicking and being over analytical. You are the one now who has made up its mind to believe we both are beyond ever being in alignment with each other. I’ve never said that to you, because my door is always open, not closed like you’re being now. 
 

I’ve never been about who’s right or wrong, I don’t resonate with that mentality. Yes, I can point out that I don’t see something said in the way it’s being said, so I’ll show another way of looking at it. That’s okay to show things from different angles. It’s never been about being in competition to who has possession of the absolute correct view. And it’s you making it out as if it’s all about that, not me. 
 

You cannot want for another person to do their own thing because it’s obvious we’re all doing our own thing anyway. , it’s not like any of us can be doing someone else’s thing. And I’ve never denied anyone here that doing their own thing is not what they are doing and therefore not wanted by me personally. That’s just playing the game of oneupmanship, which is never my game or goal, actually.
 

 

[Joseph Maynor]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

This is your problem you overthink everything, always nitpicking and being over analytical. You are the one now who has made up its mind to believe we both are beyond ever being in alignment with each other. I’ve never said that to you, because my door is always open, not closed like you’re being now. 
 

I’ve never been about who’s right or wrong, I don’t resonate with that mentality. Yes, I can point out that I don’t see something said in the way it’s being said, so I’ll show another way of looking at it. That’s okay to show things from different angles. It’s never been about being in competition to who has possession of the absolute correct view. And it’s you making it out as if it’s all about that, not me. 
 

You cannot want for another person to do their own thing because it’s obvious we’re all doing our own thing anyway. , it’s not like any of us can be doing someone else’s thing. And I’ve never denied anyone here that doing their own thing is not what they are doing and therefore not wanted by me personally. That’s just playing the game of oneupmanship, which is never my game or goal, actually.
 

 

You you you!  You love pointing the finger don't you.  What are you trying to prove here?  You trying to make me look bad?  Unlike you I put my identity out there so you have that option, but I also know who you are too.  Ease up.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Joseph Maynor

[Mellowmarsh]

21 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

@Mellowmarsh  Stop arguing with me.  I will stop arguing with you.  We are not compatible.  I could say some things that happened too but I won't.  I want to get out of this personal loop with you.  If you want to prove me wrong, that's on you.  I'm used to that, but I don't want to get mired down in someone who just wants to criticize me.  I would rather engage with someone who is open to what I have to share.  I'm sure you feel the same way about what you have to share.  You seem to be in a different stage of life to me too.  That matters.  I'm in the householder stage of life.  I'm focused on things like starting a successful business.  Different values, different conditions.

I grant you your wish. Please do not speak to me both personally or addressing any idea I may write about. This is not rocket science. 
 

If you ignore my plea for you to stop interacting with me, then I will report you to Leo directly as breaching your own wish.

 

Thank you for your honesty. But you are dead to me now. 

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Mellowmarsh said:

I grant you your wish. Please do not speak to me both personally or addressing any idea I may write about. This is not rocket science. 
 

If you ignore my plea for you to stop interacting with me, then I will report you to Leo directly as breaching your own wish.

 

Thank you for your honesty. But you are dead to me now. 

Okay, now I think you're overthinking ironically.  Don't worry about me.  I'm worried about my own projects.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You you you!  You love pointing the finger don't you.  What are you trying to prove here?  You trying to make me look bad?  

Please stop 🛑 

 Stop now. This is beyond ridiculous. Anymore and I’m reporting you to Leo. For stalking me when I’ve already left the building and slammed the door tightly shut on you.

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Okay, now I think you're overthinking ironically.  Don't worry about me.  I'm worried about my own projects.

Hopefully now, this is the last time we ever speak or meet. I’m really hoping and praying it’s really the last time, this time..

🙏 Peace.