Being Healthy is Impossible living with Stupid people.

[Basman]

Why we tripping? People are flawed and unoptimized. That is normal.

It's actually abnormal to obsess with self-improvement. 

[integral]

im using stupid to mean lack of consciousness.

Its not that complicated, its not low level judgement.

Edited 22 hours ago by integral

[Ramasta9]

Ignorant people is the correct term. When you look at it that way it helps you more than it helps calling them stupid.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

29 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Ignorant people is the correct term. When you look at it that way it helps you more than it helps calling them stupid.

You could argue this - ignorance is separate and distinct from stupid. They are not synonymous.

Ignorance is more about a lack of knowing or understanding. It is a state.

Stupid is outlining an inherent capacity or limit on the ability to know and understand.

But - I think you are correct in highlighting the OP's list is more about a state (ignorance), over an inherent intellectual limitation (stupidity). In either case, pragmatically, the outcome can be the same. Mechanism differs.

Edited 21 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Joseph Maynor]

It makes me work on my development more being around people who I don't resonate with.  I do not like to call anyone stupid though.  

[Ramasta9]

55 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

You could argue this - ignorance is separate and distinct from stupid. They are not synonymous.

Ignorance is more about a lack of knowing or understanding. It is a state.

Stupid is outlining an inherent capacity or limit on the ability to know and understand.

But - I think you are correct in highlighting the OP's list is more about a state (ignorance), over an inherent intellectual limitation (stupidity). In either case, pragmatically, the outcome can be the same. Mechanism differs.

I hear ya, i was simply playing the forgive them for they do not know card. A smoother way to navigate,  and better for the heart.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

25 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

I hear ya, i was simply playing the forgive them for they do not know card. A smoother way to navigate,  and better for the heart.

Yep - and for myself I need context around a person to diagnose them with 'stupid'. One or two interactions can easily be chalked down to ignorance, or just a different way of taking in and processing information that we do not comprehend as easily. 

Coupled with the above - people's own survival gets in the way of each other. If we present as an obstruction to someone's needs, they can perform apparent acts of ignorance OR stupidity (out of selfishness). If we cannot explain someone's actions we tend to slap them with a label - and that label can be a severe limitation in our understanding that person further. Blunting natural curiosity and good faith openness.

Humans are pattern making machines.

We fail to see we are making patterns of the fragmented parts of another. And not the whole.

Edited 20 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[integral]

14 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

forgive them for they do not know card.

This is implicit to everything I'm saying but with all the baggage the word stupid has, it's being dumped onto this topic.

The word stupid just means judgment in our culture there's basically no way to use the word in any other way.

Edited 6 hours ago by integral

[integral]

Ignorance is a lack of consciousness. Lack of Consciousness is just the umbrella term

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@integral I think stupid was defined pretty accurately above, and without baggage.

[integral]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@integral I think stupid was defined pretty accurately above, and without baggage.

You guys are defining it in terms of functional capacity. To understand 2 + 2 = 4 were a donkey does not have this ability. The ability to comprehend.

I was using it to mean less conscious as an umbrella term. I just want to clarify that.

from my perspective there are no intelligent people, intelligence is relative and the level everyone is operating at is at a super low level of intelligence. Depending on how relative you want to look at it people are infinitely unintelligent 

A rat can only be so intelligent. Imagine if the brain was 10 times as large

Edited 3 hours ago by integral

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@integral so it's not stupidity anymore just low consciousness? A misnomer 

[eos_nyxia]

Why the negative framing by default? What invisible benchmark are you comparing everything to?