Starving Patriarchy

[Rafael Thundercat]

By the way, thanks Leo for this video on the Tzar, this video drips patriarchy, a powerful man, who consider himself anoited by a male God, suffers a humiliating childhood, motherless, fatherless. He is the example of how many males are produced, he would be a RedPill today. And he killed the wife of his son for dressing imprudently, the assumption that the female body need to constrain for the whimps of male ideias, that a man can take the life of a woman because the way she is in not serving his worldview. And when he kills her is justified, but his son is another story, killing his son was a mistake that he suffers about. 

The Entire Philosophy of Ivan is basically what Patriarchy is about. God is a Daddy in the Sky that Created everything. One Praise the Sun and Forget the Earth. Forget the Matter. 

[Lila9]

3 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

For the sake of clarity, when we talk about feminists I understand that many guys here may be refering to the white feminists in this video

Yes, this sort of feminists are not the ones I refer towards. Call then Feminazis if you wish, they would be like Cuckoos Birds, they are not the solution, they co-opted the Patriarchy since they benefit from it. This video still is included in Strarving Patriarchy since it shows what Patriarchy feeds from. 

It is weird that there are people who consider those women feminists. They definitely don't. Of course, they benefit from the freedoms feminists fought for.

But they uphold the patriarchy, say what is convenient to say, and believe what is convenient to believe (like the bioessentialist patriarchal paradigm of rigid and biological "traditional" gender roles).

They have selfish and myopic thinking rather than seeing the bigger picture, bootlick and submit their way into power while backstabbing and betraying other women. They are not safe for children and other women. They are usually the women who support their pedophile husbands, those who envy and compete with their daughters, and those who groom their sons to be their emotional support toys as a replacement for a partner. For every Jeffrey Epstein, there is Ghislaine Maxwell.

Regarding white feminists, aka, actual women who describe themselves as feminists and are culturally white/western are many times too focused on empowerment and on being as powerful as men. They rarely truly question the patriarchy, but instead seek success within it (i.e., Taylor Swift), rather than actually deconstructing patriarchy and addressing the real issues of most women in the world, who are still struggling for freedom and basic human rights.

The dude whom the video is about is indeed really dangerous with his soft-spoken nature. On the surface, he may seem like someone "balanced" and reasonable, but he never challenges mainstream misogynistic and sexist beliefs. He is part of the problem. Literally, there are not many good male role models, and people think, "Okay, at least he is not Andrew Tate." But it only shows how low the bar is for being considered a good man.

[Lila9]

A very good and in depth series about the 4 pillars of patriarchy:

 

 

 

 

 

[Lila9]

Women were deliberately erased from history. When we talk about great men, philosophers, mystics, scientists, artists and inventors, we often don’t mention the women who worked with them, the women from whom they stole their work, or the women who provided them with the emotional and domestic labor so they could do their own work uninterrupted and to be the "lone wolves".

Did you know that Socrates’ teacher, yes, the great Socrates, was a woman? Her name was Aspasia, but she is rarely mentioned, if at all.

 

Additionally, Socrates’ wife is always seen as the “nagging wife,” but she literally was the reason he could freely walk around, interrupt strangers with philosophical inquiries and debates, and dedicate his life entirely to philosophy, because she handled all the survival and the invisible labor of raising their children, providing for them, and sustaining the household.

[Rafael Thundercat]

@Lila9 thanks for this material. It shows that is not so like unbased like some members here want to make looks.

[Lila9]

5 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

@Lila9 thanks for this material. It shows that is not so like unbased like some members here want to make looks.

Great thread of yours, which I appreciate, as always.

[Lila9]

Patriarchy harms sex. It creates asexual women. How? By slut-shaming and socializing women to repress their sexuality and to be fully attuned to male sexual needs at the expense of their own. Reclaiming women's sexuality is a crucial part of starving patriarchy.

 

[Lila9]

Western/white feminism is just an extension of patriarchy. The 50/50 feminism, the girl-boss feminism, the choice feminism, the feminism that does not question patriarchal expectations of women and beauty standards, that is not real feminism. It is a puppet Patriarchal, capitalistic and distorted version of feminism that is convenient for the system.

[Raze]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19997098/

Study:

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Giving testosterone to women makes them behave more fairly and less conflictive. However, women who believe they have taken testosterone—but who have actually taken a placebo—behave more aggressively and more unfairly.

To me this study debunks claims about patriarchal structures being socially conditioned, as we see the male hormone can increase desire for fairness.

It also explains how women’s bias towards men caused by false feminist understandings leads to actually worse behavior when they feel they need to replicate male behaviors to succeed, they assume they should behave less fairly because they were given the male hormone.

Edited 8 hours ago by Raze

[enchanted]

You guys are shadow boxing. Patriarchy is already dead. In a few years women will make up the majority of leaders and professionals since they already do in higher education. Not sure how they got there if they were so suppressed but all you "feminists" will be able to unbunch your panties very soon. I doubt you will but here's hoping. 

 

[Raze]

6 minutes ago, enchanted said:

 

You guys are shadow boxing. Patriarchy is already dead. In a few years women will make up the majority of leaders and professionals since they already do in higher education. Not sure how they got there if they were so suppressed but all you "feminists" will be able to unbunch your panties very soon. I doubt you will but here's hoping. 

The truth is there never was a patriarchy as feminists understand it. Traditional cultures evolved for both men and women to have benefits and sacrifices.

One clear example of this is looking at the women who were against women’s suffrage, one of their main arguments was it could lead to women losing privileges such as not being drafted like men were. 

Feminism is now incoherent because it wants to retain female privileges while dismantling male privileges but inadvertently makes women’s lives worse and cause damage to society which they blame on patriarchy.

See hook up culture, the natural outgrowth of what happens when feminists reduced traditional dating norms. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Raze

[Lila9]

11 minutes ago, Raze said:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19997098/

Study:

To me this study debunks claims about patriarchal structures being socially conditioned, as we see the male hormone can increase desire for fairness.

It also explains how women’s bias towards men caused by false feminist understandings leads to actually worse behavior when they feel they need to replicate male behaviors to succeed, they assume they should behave less fairly because they were given the male hormone.

How do male desires for fairness because of testosterone go in line with a patriarchal structure which is inherently hierarchical and unfair?

If that were the case, then men would simply act fairly and wouldn’t be oppressive towards women or exploit nature over the last few thousand years. There would also be no poverty or hunger. Saying that this study debunking patriarchal structures as being socially conditioned is simply not accurate.

 

[Raze]

7 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

How do male desires for fairness because of testosterone go in line with a patriarchal structure which is inherently hierarchical and unfair?

If that were the case, then men would simply act fairly and wouldn’t be oppressive towards women or exploit nature over the last few thousand years. There would also be no poverty or hunger. Saying that this study debunking patriarchal structures as being socially conditioned is simply not accurate.

 

Because fairness is just one metric.

There is also survival, liberty, caring, etc.

If patriarchy was just about exploiting women it wouldn’t have developed chivalry and assigned men to dangerous tasks.

If it was just about exploiting nature there wouldn’t be conservation efforts in most cultures. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Raze

[enchanted]

9 minutes ago, Raze said:

The truth is there never was a patriarchy as feminists understand it. Traditional cultures evolved for both men and women to have benefits and sacrifices.

One clear example of this is looking at the women who were against women’s suffrage, one of their main arguments was it could lead to women losing privileges such as not being drafted like men were. 

Feminism is now incoherent because it wants to retain female privileges while dismantling male privileges but inadvertently makes women’s lives worse and cause damage to society which they blame on patriarchy.

See hook up culture, the natural outgrowth of what happens when feminists reduced traditional dating norms. 

Excellent point, another example of how feminism is completely skewed in its logic is that statistically the world is far more dangerous for men than it is for women in almost every cause of death. (With the sole Exception of domestic violence). 

Everyone knows women should be protected, men are disposable. And when women get attacked it's especially appalling for society even though it happens less often then for men!

The only thing feminism has achieved is lower birth rates and higher anxiety levels due to less stable family structures. 

Edited 8 hours ago by enchanted

[Lila9]

15 minutes ago, enchanted said:

 

You guys are shadow boxing. Patriarchy is already dead. In a few years women will make up the majority of leaders and professionals since they already do in higher education. Not sure how they got there if they were so suppressed but all you "feminists" will be able to unbunch your panties very soon. I doubt you will but here's hoping. 

 

Most billionaires and people in power are men because of patriarchy.

They are the ones responsible for the crisis. Why are you protecting them? Are you afraid of them? Are you loyal to them because of some bro code while blaming women for exposing shitty and abusive behavior of men towards both men and women? If so, congrats, you are brainwashed by patriarchy.

 

Patriarchy persists in your brain. You are such a good and submissive boy. Good job. I’m sure Jeff Bezos appreciates you.

[enchanted]

Just now, Lila9 said:

Most billionaires and people in power are men because of patriarchy.

They are the ones responsible for the crisis. Why are you protecting them? Are you afraid of them? Are you loyal to them because of some bro code while blaming women for exposing shitty and abusive behavior of men towards both men and women? If so, congrats, you are brainwashed by patriarchy.

 

Patriarchy persists in your brain. You are such a good and submissive boy. Good job. I’m sure Jeff Bezos appreciates you.

Your logic is not sound but your irrational brain will never see it. And congratulations you are brainwashed by feminism. 

[Raze]

Just now, Lila9 said:

Most billionaires and people in power are men because of patriarchy.

Based on what? How do you know it isn’t something else? 

[Lila9]

 

1 minute ago, enchanted said:

Your logic is not sound but your irrational brain will never see it. And congratulations you are brainwashed by feminism. 

Yes dude, as if my real-life experience as a woman of sexual assaults, rape, direct misogyny, and systemic oppression are some irrational woo-woo things that I imagined. Don't gaslight me.

You are an hypocrite, because you previously stated that you support feminism. Probably virtue signaling from your side to appear more conscious than you are. Typical "nice guy". Do some real work on your misogeny rather than covering it up. .

[enchanted]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

Based on what? How do you know it isn’t something else? 

Don't expect a coherent answer. Brainwashed militant feminists are just angry bitter people who draw you into circular arguments.

[enchanted]

5 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

 

Yes dude, as if my real-life experience as a woman of sexual assaults, rape, direct misogyny, and systemic oppression are some irrational woo-woo things that I imagined. Don't gaslight me.

You are an hypocrite, because you previously stated that you support feminism. Probably virtue signaling from your side to appear more conscious than you are. Typical "nice guy". Do some real work on your misogeny rather than covering it up. .

It's like I'm talking to a brainwashed zombie. So cringe. 

Just because I support feminism doesn't mean I support your incoherent angry dribble. 

Edited 7 hours ago by enchanted