Science for Karate, ti kuan do, etc

[kavaris]

I had a conversation with you, based on your very first post to this thread. That was gona be the end right there, but you are taking me on a neverending journey, so lets end it. its bullshuit.

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, kavaris said:

so lets end it.

I agree . Thanks bye.

[kavaris]

Well anyway, now that we can resume where we left off, the options were to talk about science, or what i now would say is to talk about whatever this guy was on about, which doesnt sound like its gonna be fun.

This thread is about science, so lets just get that straight. I wouldve considered whatever the above guy was on about, thankfully hes moved on (right?) Good. So Science, science is not fighting. Hopefully we are not running the tape back too far that thats what the confusion is.

[kavaris]

This thread is about science. Ill preface with saying that. Now at one point, i was considering it from the direction of like, physical science, whatchamacallit, like gym class science. Forget about that now. For, once you try to give someone advice about it (or really its not so much my advice confusing them, but their persistence to explain how confused they are about everything, without explaining why... and theyve dont this before)

 causing said confusion. Persistently mind you. So anyway, thats not what this thread is about. Ignore that man behind the curtain
Hopefully we dont gotta reference 'turn of phrases.

[kavaris]

Like the persistence level is high, the personality level -not so good. We are working on those things, for myself as well as others.

[kavaris]

Like im having to guess at what people are saying they are confused about (its mainly this guy i come to learn, as im looking at his activity), but not cause he had a viable, concrete reason (or a message quoted clearly) and not because weve seemed to reach a wall / impasse (an impenetrable crossing / wall within said message) but because they repeatedly keep saying how confused they are ... like... and then ending with "... sheesh, thanks.."

Thats not how people talk to each other. If you say "thanks" in the end of a rant about being confused, it sounds like thats your last message for the day, like... It sounds like you are expiring from the convo. it doesnt sound like you are participating in anyway, shape or form.

Edited 5 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

I even prefaced with "how stressful it would be for me to get into such a topic", but he decided this thread was about fighting online for some reason,

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Just start a journal man if you want to talk to yourself without people commenting. 

Why is this guy commenting in my threads if this is how hes chosen to speak to people? Tell me, cause id like to know. Heres one where he comments to someone else, and what his impression is like,

On 4/19/2026 at 5:28 PM, Someone here said:

It’s not clear what you are describing at all. Reads like mental health issue

Edited 5 hours ago by kavaris
(page 3 in his activity)

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Someone here if someone requests you stop replying, please attempt do so. It is easier to respect the boundary. Suppress the impulse to reply when someone expresses a boundary. In this case replying was achieving nothing but further agitation.

@kavaris no name-calling. Flagrant violation of rules. I understand you are frustrated but this is not allowed.

[Someone here]

@kavaris brother ..sorry . Stop this . All this rage because I said to you twice that your writing style is hazy or vague ? What can I do to make you forgive me if you feel hurt ? I didn’t mean to be offensive at all . 

@Natasha Tori Maru sorry . Noted .

 

[kavaris]

Humor me for a second. I wanna tell a story, but i want to start with a kindve initiatory question: "Because when people say "im confused" my first thought is actually "What would you have me say then...?"  "

But lets not get lost in that question, because its more of an *ice breaker, like a Gingerbread house for us all to meet at without getting worked up. Not meant to be taken seriously (DONT TAKE IT AS A SERIOUS QUESTION)

Back in the day, i was working at this job (doesnt matter where) and i had had this co-worker, and sure, i had multiple co-worker/relationships like this, relationships where we had started to *bump heads*. And I kept telling him a story about how "theres this guy whos been bothering me... yada yada" .. you know... small talk. b.s. stuff...

And so, my co-worker would listen to me ~ going on and on about my life, and,

because him and i had a falling out, and because we werent exactly on good terms (its complicated/hard to explain) and because we were co workers, it just made things hard... and i chose him to start conversations with, expressing to him how.. how BAD it was going for me... trying to get past the b.s. from the day, during work, and in my life (i expressed it in a way that was... somewhat tolerable, cause the real version sucks!!!)

And like i said, it was a sore area to talk about, and i couldve mentioned many, many subjects that were also on the sore side (there isnt anything NOT sore, put it that way, im just good at speaking to people in person... obviously thats not the case online since no one can understand me)

But i was curious "what he wouldve done" instead, like "what were my options", cause whatever i kept doing was causing more and more trouble for myself ... so much so ~ that this individual, the individual causing me trouble had visited that co-worker in person, and thankfully the coworker was able to get rid of him... easily... not by force. Im not sure what he did, for his spirit just  "shoo'd" him away somehow, possibly by accident, possibly luck, possibly skill, who knows... doesnt matter..

That situation helped me learn something. Granted, the major downfall happened after, but like... I mean, im referencing it now, so i learned something about a situation that i could reference.

So bottomline, after all of that, telling him about how, there were issues in my life, especially certain persons, he would end up saying:

"Are you talking about me (metaphorically)?"

Like, in other words, he thought, because him and i werent on good terms, and because we didnt have the right rhythm together, that everything i was saying, everything i was talking to him about ~confiding in him~ was ABOUT HIM. Presumably about the falling out between him and i.

I was like, are you fucking serious. And maybe he meant "is that how you feel about me" typeve thing (meaning, "i get what you been through, but is that ALSO how you feel whilst here?"). But if thats what he meant, he didnt say anything like that. Thats not the point anyway.

The point is, i gave him this elaborate story, interweaving through things that are ~and continue to be~ hard to speak on, and it just flew over his head. Like he didnt understand anything i was telling him. Did he say "i dont understand anything you said", Well... Think about it, its totally different situation when offline compared to online. We were in person, offline.

P.s. On the off chance he did say that, what he wouldve meant was "i can NOT relate to your experience"

The point is, we were co workers, spending many hours together ~ which awarded us too much time to understand each other. And in the end, like days before i left that b.s. (not because of him!), he said "was that all analogy... Do you mean (me) and not (this life long antagonist)?"

He probably thought i left that job because of him... like... He had NO FUCKING CLUE. Like wtf???

Thats what my life is. In the end, even the co worker is like, "i dont get it".

> Well, what is there to get... its like, we are just talking... spitballing; like... nobody knows anything about me, therefore im expressing to you something about me. Do i have to outline the mechanics of this? Like how many details are to be splattered on the wall before its like, you are witnessing the witness whos been through some shit. And we are trying to mentally survive it now, together, otherwise itll be unbearable from here on out.

Like, we started from this standpoint of "My dad use to take me to karate..."

I am telling you what happens in real life, when you arent rolling downhill. Theres no insult there, its just what happened in our conversation today. Uphill from one person, Downhill from the other. Im not even commenting on it, besides the karate part, which is just word for word. the first few words. it didnt mean anything, which is the point though. we're changing the subject. I mean, starting over, "my  dad DIDNT take me to karate", THere.

But anyway, that is what im tryina express there. THats it. Feel free to share. Keep in mind, it may feel somewhat unbearable, cause for myself, there isnt any point where im not finding things unbearable.

This is just stress level +4 on the "Already-Stressed-to-Death" level towards infinity case for me. I assume theres gonna be people like that too on here, at some point, people whove been through some shit, and to treat everyone with that benefit of the doubt at first (or im just double checking, cause i definitely dont want to insult people like myself, like older people i mean... if its a young soul, i mean... sometimes you cant help but correct them... it just happens... i mean...).

I always preface with ".. gonna be a stressful situation" if its gonna be a stressful situation.

Edited 1 hour ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

Now surely this wont be taken as an insult, since the entire story was about me, and the last slither, was just to relate back to what we had spoken on. Which, i dont know how to express in the right way, that is, that it is irrelevant now since we failed that conversation, together. We failed as a team. We failed downhill together, how about that.

[Someone here]

@kavaris My love let it gooooooooooo. It’s not the end of the world because a misunderstanding or mismatch happened between two strangers on the internet. I said I’m sorry and here I’m saying sorry again . I apologized three times for something I’m not even convinced that it is guilty . This means it’s checkmate ..if you keep this nonsense up then you are literally a kid .

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@kavaris you can't ask for no reply from a user and then directly engage them again in conversation. 

It's effectively a taunt and now it isn't fair to @Someone here now.

If you end up stung because you kicked a hornets nest I'll just lock this.

 

[No1Here2c]

Just now, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@kavaris you can't ask for no reply from a user and then directly engage them again in conversation. 

It's effectively a taunt and now it isn't fair to @Someone here now.

If you end up stung because you kicked a hornets nest I'll just lock this.

 

Dont lock it let the wasps give him a lesson.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Dont lock it let the wasps give him a lesson.

Topics shouldn't devolve into attacks slandering one another. 

[No1Here2c]

Just now, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Topics shouldn't devolve into attacks slandering one another. 

A sting will wake anyone out of slumber.

[No1Here2c]

Truth is too brutal to shelter them from themselves. They are the least of each other's worries.