You cannot know Awareness

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, No1Here2c said:

Except for the exact image which is reflected.

Exact image of what, exactly?

[No1Here2c]

Put words to the wordless?

Good Luck!

Have fun!

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, No1Here2c said:

Put words to the wordless?

Good Luck!

Have fun!

Relative words or ideas ascribed to the absolute is absurd. 

[Mellowmarsh]

You cannot know awareness because you are awareness one without a second.

 

No human being will survive it’s own awakening. One must imagine one is very happy about that. 
 

 

[Willy Phallicus]

17 hours ago, No1Here2c said:

Awareness can know you. 

Is really how it plays out.

Bingo.

[Lyubov]

We live in the unknown. All that arises comes from this and returns to this. Wouldn’t it be so boring if we didn’t? 

[Mellowmarsh]

17 hours ago, No1Here2c said:

Awareness can know you. 

Is really how it plays out.

Awareness can know a thought. ie: a concept, the concept “you” …which is a thought.

But the concept / thought knows nothing. 

Awareness is not the concept / thought it knows.

A thought / concept cannot objectify awareness without turning awareness into an object known, which it is not.

Is really how it plays out. Yes, really. 

 

 

 

 

[Mellowmarsh]

Awareness never tells itself it is aware, it can’t because it’s already self illuminating. It’s too close to itself to look back at itself. 

Being knowingly aware via direct experience is still a mental construct appearing within awareness. Not awareness which neither appears or disappears.

Knowledge can only point to the illusory nature of reality, in that it’s this knowing that cannot be known, for that which is known knows nothing. The known is a fiction, not real. 

While the real and the fiction sound similar, awareness ( real) is the "viewing screen," while self-consciousness is a "character" on that screen ( fiction) 

[Lyubov]

Y'all yap way too much go get a job or something 

[oOo]

@Mellowmarsh You are treating “knowing” too conceptually by making a fixed conceptual split between knowing and knowledge. Awareness is not always accessed as one flat sine wave, it can disclose itself through layers, depths, states, and developmental capacities.

Conceptuality often cloaks awareness , however as a kind of meta-constructural language it also allows awareness to better differentiate, bring balance and recognise itself. So the distinction between direct knowing and conceptual knowledge is useful though only situationally and domain-specifically, not as a global absolute. Because different states of awareness are also going to bring about different bidirectional feedback loops with the content within awareness.

Best regards.

[Mellowmarsh]

36 minutes ago, oOo said:

@Mellowmarsh You are treating “knowing” too conceptually by making a fixed conceptual split between knowing and knowledge. Awareness is not always accessed as one flat sine wave, it can disclose itself through layers, depths, states, and developmental capacities.

Conceptuality often cloaks awareness , however as a kind of meta-constructural language it also allows awareness to better differentiate, bring balance and recognise itself. So the distinction between direct knowing and conceptual knowledge is useful though only situationally and domain-specifically, not as a global absolute. Because different states of awareness are also going to bring about different bidirectional feedback loops with the content within awareness.

Best regards.

Appreciate your input and response.

 

But I have absolutely no understanding of what you are talking about.

Best to you too.

[Joseph Maynor]

7 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Awareness can know a thought. ie: a concept, the concept “you” …which is a thought.

But the concept / thought knows nothing. 

Awareness is not the concept / thought it knows.

A thought / concept cannot objectify awareness without turning awareness into an object known, which it is not.

Is really how it plays out. Yes, really. 

This puts a lot of thought conditions on Awareness ironically.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

This puts a lot of thought conditions on Awareness ironically.

False I 

 

The true I that you are cannot be seen, touched, described, or lost.

 It has no form, no age, or destiny.