Anger is not always wrong

[No1Here2c]

How does one determine whether anger is coming from a mature place or not?

Can anger originate from a vaguely defined area of maturity/immaturity wherein it is not exactly clear the source?

Regardless of origin, there are mature and immature ways to express anger. The line must be tread carefully. Tightrope walking.

Anger is a powerful force that can be directed to some degree given sufficient awareness.

~♤~

Wrath is as expression of God's perfect Chaos!

The Beauty of a Lightning Storm!

Supercell!

Personification of the clouds yes.

 

[integral]

23 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

How does one determine whether anger is coming from a mature place or not?

Can anger originate from a vaguely defined area of maturity/immaturity wherein it is not exactly clear the source?

Regardless of origin, there are mature and immature ways to express anger. The line must be tread carefully. Tightrope walking.

Anger is a powerful force that can be directed to some degree given sufficient awareness.

~♤~

Wrath is as expression of God's perfect Chaos!

The Beauty of a Lightning Storm!

Supercell!

Personification of the clouds yes.

 

if you're angry all the time about unserious things you should have the wisdom to know they're not serious enough to be angry about.

I grew up with a anger management father who had a mental breakdown if a plate was broken.

If simple inconveniences make you angry that's clearly immaturity.

Anger has to be used as a tool to solve a problem, if that's not happening it's directed wrong.

People should be fucking angry about oligarchs. This is using the tool correctly.

But this tool could easily be corrupted, and then you get people deporting immigrants.

To know when to be angry is to have already spent your whole life dedicated to truth, where very few things are going to make you angry to begin with.

Edited 5 hours ago by integral

[No1Here2c]

I recently had an experience where I felt a very powerful momentum during contemplation.

I, admittedly, was utilizing the 'wrong' medium to record my thoughts as they passed through. It was an untrustworthy digital medium.

I was moving very quickly, and in the whiplash of it all it turns out I made a critical error, in an instant I lost all of my recorded progress with which I wanted to utilize in order to go back an integrate my apparent 'contemplation work'

The realization of what i had lost there really triggered something in me. I was quite furious. I cannot tell if this anger was drawn out from a mature location inside or not. It was EXTREME.

What I can tell, is that the way I went about dealing with & expressing my anger, reached far beyond acceptable bounds. 

Now does immature expression inherently imply an immature source? Or just lack of self mastery?

Maybe a lack of internal groundedness or integrated stability?

Emotions are still foreign territory to this guy.

Edited 4 hours ago by No1Here2c

[integral]

3 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

I recently had an experience where I felt very a powerful momentum during contemplation.

I, admittedly, was utilizing the 'wrong' medium to record my thoughts as they passed through. It was an untrustworthy digital medium.

I was moving very quickly, and in the whiplash of it all it turns out I made a critical error, in an instant I lost all of my recorded progress with which I wanted to utilize in order to go back an integrate my apparent 'contemplation work'

The realization of what i had lost there really triggered something in me. I was quite furious. I cannot tell if this anger was drawn out from a mature location inside or not. It was EXTREME.

What is can tell, is that the way I went about dealing with & expressing my anger, reached far beyond acceptable bounds. 

Now does immature expression inherently imply an immature source? Or just lack of self mastery?

Ive definitely been in that situation where I deleted something irreversible or someone else deleted something irreversible which was even worse emotionally.

Anger is a natural response to loss what matters in this case is how long did you hold on to it and do you have a healthy relationship with setbacks?

Normally if I get a huge spike in anger and it happens I fully recover in between 10 to 15 minutes. After that I back to normal and I could see things through a lens of wisdom again.

All of those monks do the same thing, they get angry there's some yelling and then they recover and they come back to wisdom.

Anger management problems is completely different from getting angry occasionally.

[No1Here2c]

Seemed to take at least a day or two to recover back to my baseline sense of emotional stability. I was ready to completely walk away from everything. Very unhealthy reaction. Anger quickly becomes exponential for me and like wildfire begins to cause damage in all realms of my experience.

Notably, Anger especially impacts my sense of 'keeping it together' such that I stop even caring about the damage or destruction my words & behaviors will cause not only to others but to myself down the line. Reason goes flying elsewhere for a long while, I fear that with sufficient anger, the momentum of destruction could get out of hand.

It wreaks havoc internally which is reflected in my external experience.

[integral]

42 minutes ago, No1Here2c said:

Seemed to take at least a day or two to recover back to my baseline sense of emotional stability. I was ready to completely walk away from everything. Very unhealthy reaction. Anger quickly becomes exponential for me and like wildfire begins to cause damage in all realms of my experience.

Notably, Anger especially impacts my sense of 'keeping it together' such that I stop even caring about the damage or destruction my words & behaviors will cause not only to others but to myself down the line. Reason goes flying elsewhere for a long while, I fear that with sufficient anger, the momentum of destruction could get out of hand.

It wreaks havoc internally which is reflected in my external experience.

If it lasts 2 days then ya i can see why your spiralling.

Got to find a healthy coping mechanism to manage this, have you tried exercise to change your hormones?

Mine doesnt last long enough to need coping, but during the 15 minutes of intense anger i am thinking very deeply and calculating alot of possibilities. Im searching for "the way out", considering many perspectives. Im thinking of "the bigger picture" and placing everything in order of importance.

But i have no idea if this is useful for people who get "stuck" on a emotion, i do no that when people get stuck is because they are rambling in there head very negative thoughts with out forcing themselve to think about higher order things. They will sit in there one bad perspective and often act like a victim and blame everything. In this case they have to force themselse to look at more then one perspective and zoom out.

But i dont know if this works. 

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[No1Here2c]

34 minutes ago, integral said:

Got to find a healthy coping mechanism to manage this, have you tried exercise to change your hormones?

during the 15 minutes of intense anger i am thinking very deeply and calculating alot of possibilities. Im searching for "the way out", considering many perspectives. Im thinking of "the bigger picture" and placing everything in order of importance.

Exercise is certainly a good expenditure of energy.

I think the latter you describe may actually be a better use of the 'violent upheaval' which anger can cause. Seems like if properly approached & controlled, could lead to contemplative insight. 

Of course the ability to navigate and control anger is in direct relation to one's degree of self mastery. Self mastery is a constant devotion. Like learning any skill. To ride the currents of emotion in productive healthy ways, requires commitment to the craft.

[IslandWild]

When the best person you know is angry, it's probably for a good reason.

[integral]

1 hour ago, No1Here2c said:

Self mastery 

💯 100% responsibility

Edited 1 hour ago by integral

[Jodistrict]

Is it possible to be in a state of anger and not suffer?