More Potent Analog of Salvinorin A

[Nemra]

It's called Salvinorin B Methoxymethyl Ether.

It's said to be seven times more potent than Salvinorin A.

Wikipedia: Salvinorin B Methoxymethyl Ether

Edited Sunday at 02:31 PM by Nemra

[Nemra]

This is an even more potent analog of Salvinorin A than the previous one!

Wikipedia: Salvinorin B Ethoxymethyl Ether

Edited Sunday at 08:22 PM by Nemra

[LambdaDelta]

The report on EME is fake. idk whether anyone tried MEM but it looks like pointless midway between Sal A and B EME anyway. 

Ones in the original research study are real, even if not so romantically psychedelic.

First video confuses MEM & EME, 'Symmetry' and '10x Salvia' is the latter but he says MEM despite linking to another badly researched vid about EME.

 

Edited Monday at 07:46 PM by LambdaDelta

[Nemra]

18 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

First video confuses MEM & EME, 'Symmetry' and '10x Salvia' is the latter but he says MEM despite linking to another badly researched vid about EME.

My bad.

23 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

[Michal__]

So if you can live an entire alternate life time with normal salvia how many lifetimes would you experience with this haha

[LambdaDelta]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

My bad.

Not a dig at u, 'he' as in that Chayse channel.

 

9 minutes ago, Michal__ said:

So if you can live an entire alternate life time with normal salvia how many lifetimes would you experience with this haha

I'm fascinated by the time dilation aspect of Consciousness, like those horror stories about a blink lasting for years, which i hoped to experience on Sal B EME.
Ran the numbers before taking it (obviously just simplistic linear scaling for laughs): 
45s = 8 years from some Salvia report, which is 252288000s; conservatively extrapolated to 1hr with EME = 640 years / hr of trip. So like 8-9 avg lifetimes, tracks with the 10x potency figure 

[Nemra]

1 minute ago, LambdaDelta said:

Not a dig at u, 'he' as in that Chayse channel.

I know, but I could have been more careful.

[Michal__]

57 minutes ago, LambdaDelta said:

Not a dig at u, 'he' as in that Chayse channel.

 

I'm fascinated by the time dilation aspect of Consciousness, like those horror stories about a blink lasting for years, which i hoped to experience on Sal B EME.
Ran the numbers before taking it (obviously just simplistic linear scaling for laughs): 
45s = 8 years from some Salvia report, which is 252288000s; conservatively extrapolated to 1hr with EME = 640 years / hr of trip. So like 8-9 avg lifetimes, tracks with the 10x potency figure 

According to Castaneda's books there's a chance you'd get stuck in a new reality forever.

Or on the other hand you could just change forms for thousands of years like some of the old shamans supposedly do.

Edited Monday at 09:10 PM by Michal__

[kavaris]

Forgive me, as i decided not to answer the ques., as i didnt know anything about it. However i wrote what i consider much more insightful and informative piece in regards to Salvia, as it'll resonate hard w/ anyone whos done Saliva

How Salvia Feels (I) and should have been described (i mean, its been like 20 years so weve been thinkin of it for a long time now)

I often think of Salvia w/ fond memories, even though i dont know of anyone who tried it w/ such fondness, but what I really liked is, that it was atleast a moment to zoom in, and reiterate on the textures and the music of the textures, like that left/right~leaning~ super drunkenness, that we would come to be very familiar w/, probably whilst taking for granted our abilities in that moment ~

That is, if we take Salvia and compare it to a stage of drunkenness w/ the spins, the spirits or the dragons spinning you/me, that wouldve been what we called it prolly~20 years ago. And that is surely one way to describe it, though its more than that, cause you also are zooming into the *flavor of the moment, of Salvia, this emerald green textural thing...

That is, unless you hadnt done it in the right atmosphere... With the right music playing... The right colors. If you didnt do those tings, then you prolly dont share the same fondness (which is perfectly fine, for everyone is different)

Like its more akin to a sea of green, the boundary between our lives~right before it becomes pure textural in some like, divine, abstract closet of the world ~like, its a place where music becomes something directly felt; Or rather, "feeling" itself is experienced on Salvia. What we are saying is "directly felt" is really something experienced i mean to say. Albeit it is an experience that takes you to a base, like inside of the almond-shaped gland somewhere, where it strips you of breathing acknowledgement, heartbeat acknowledgments, perception itself, and just leaves you with rhythm itself

The rhythm. Anything else is just in the way, atleast on Salvia. For, you are the heartbeat, and the walls that fall each time you bump into them, or the thread that accepts you as thread, or somethin' like... I found this Greek phrase: τις στιγμῆς αἰσθάνεται "one becomes aware of a moment" ~ And thats exactly what i want to say... You are made aware of~ in the sense that you are pulled into the moment. So if the last image you looked at was a picture of an island, you dont just go to the island, you become the picture, you become your wall, and that wall and that picture are in your trip. So you have to be consciously looking at something favorable and somewhat pleasing, before falling into Salvia, for you are to then *Carry with you, that feeling for 5 minutes.

And maybe its just the after effects, or our ability to *describe Saliva divinorum that makes it sound pleasing, that gives it some validity, but i just feel like theres something to it, theres something there, much in how theres certain kinds of Oolong teas that share that same sortve thing, this like, taste that really iterates on the same flavor profile. It's a flavor that isnt doing more than it should, like... It's something or someone (a spirit) that is autistic, whilst also being incredible good at explaining its own experience.

.... At the same time, it feels horrific so im not even sure what im talking about... but maybe, just maybe if i try it again in the future, ill be like (well you know what, i actually enjoy that feeling now). You never know.

Edited 4 hours ago by kavaris