Deconstructing Monster Narratives

[Ziran]

5 hours ago, trenton said:

They often operate under the just world fallacy. Good things happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people, also known as karma. Therefore if they can get away with raping someone, then that person deserved to have something bad happen to them and because they got away with it, that is the proof that their behavior is acceptable.

Have you come across any research regarding the manner in which the fixation takes root?  Specifically, please correct me, criminal minds follow "signs" which trigger them?

[moonawakening444]

1 hour ago, trenton said:

I finished reading a book called "Without Conscience" by Robert D. Hare. I think it gives some pretty good explanations as to how psychopaths function, how they think, and the limits of our current system for handling people with such conditions. Treatment attempts are known to often backfire by teaching psychopaths how to fake progress and learn to manipulate even more effectively. It seems to truly be difficult to get a determined psychopathic offender to just behave themselves without trying to screw people over. To this day our justice system doesn't really have a good answer for such offenders. Preventative and proactive measures in early childhood seem to be the best bet, but with our current system focused on reactive measures, it would be difficult to make such a leap. It might require restructuring the incentive structure of our justice system which seems to focus on mass incarceration rather than crime prevention.

yeah, it´s a complex topic, very nuanced... 

for sure making sure our children feel safe and loved from the very start is so important, and still it doesn´t guarantee anything, life is unpredictable

and also i believe society is in need of restructuring not only in the justice system, but all systems, right? 

i can see that we will slowly progress individually, and therefore collectively by becoming more conscious of our own shadows... 

slowly but surely we will reach a point where there will be no such individuals in our society. 

until then, the biggest lesson, at least for me... has been becoming aware of their humanness and actually be able to hold Love for them, just as i do for myself when i feel i acted in way that goes against my Spiritual essence.... 

peace and Love, brother!

[trenton]

1 hour ago, Ziran said:

Have you come across any research regarding the manner in which the fixation takes root?  Specifically, please correct me, criminal minds follow "signs" which trigger them?

@Ziran in the case of grievance rapists, they usually target someone in an intimate relationship, partially due to the entitlement worldview. This worldview was actually prevalent throughout history due to women being considered property of men and expected to submit. In fact, marital rape wasn't fully criminalized in America until 1993 due to the assumption that the relationship automatically confers consent. Sometimes rapists operate under these relational assumptions such that they believe they are justified in using force against an intimate partner to get sex and to them it isn't even rape. The same is still the case in less developed country where women are seen as property and expected to submit.

The entitlement worldview is part of the problem, and it can worsen if they expect infidelity. In that case the grievance might be so bad that they could rape and murder and intimate partner.

However, they might sometimes attack strangers. These strangers or random women that they barely know just might happen to remind them of a past woman they felt betrayed by. Therefore, raping this woman symbolically destroys the type of person he now hates.

They seem to be triggered by loss of control and power, which is well known in domestic violence cases, making it dangerous when a woman tries to leave. The disturbing implications is that the one documented rape at the time of the murder, is only the tip of the iceberg of a long brutal history. This rapist likely sexually abused this woman many times before she tried to leave him, and this is implied in relationship studies of abuse cases, but not always clearly and starkly stated.

The rapist often says "that bitch deserved it." Defense attorneys often look horrible when they try to defend these people, but our system does require due process for such people and some kind of attempt at a defense even when the behavior seems indefensible.