Insights on attachment & abundance

[Breakingthewall]

It's not that you desire things, but when you realize you created them, you stop desiring them. The movement is different: you must disappear. You as the center. Then the whole opens up. It's extremely difficult because the "you"/center is genetically encoded. But it's important to understand this and not fall into basic errors like you= creator

[Someone here]

2 hours ago, Ziran said:

... I find bookworms particularly captivating ...

Beyond that, I love love.  And music and food.

I love the feeling of releasing-and-returning.  It's like flying, I suppose.

I have a dear friend who credits me for helping them out of their darkness.   When we meet she hangs on my every word.  Lately, in my own darkness, she's been wonderful to me.  The satisfaction coming from witnessing this, needing care and receiving care, from her. 

I gave another friend, deeply wounded from childhood neglect.  I bring her peace and hope, ( her words, not mine ).   

I feel privileged to have these precious opportunities.  Naturally, I desire more of this,  Supporting others, for the purpose of witnessing their success, then watching it happen is, literally,  splendid. 

What darkness you are going through?  That’s tangent .

so you love love.. music ..food ..helping other people.. 

How are you going about achieving maximum abundance of these things ? Do you buy my theory that you own infinite resources from these things you’re interested in? Cause that’s the whole insight about abundance .

[Someone here]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

But it's important to understand this and not fall into basic errors like you= creator

This goes to the question of God . Who else would have created everything if not me ? If you want to create a distinction between a human me and a cosmic me which is the source of creation then so be it .
 

Edited 7 hours ago by Someone here

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

This goes to the question of God . Who else would have created everything if not me ? If you want to create a distinction between a human me and a cosmic me which is the source of creation then so be it .
 

There is no creator; it's quite simple and obvious. You are a part, as a form, and the whole, as let's say substance.

The whole is limitless, therefore it cannot be limited to being stable, empty, undifferentiated. Fluctuations arise, contrast, change relative to other change. Given the limitlessness of what is, limitless changes arise, overlapping in stable, coherent patterns related to each other, creating realities that endure because they are coherent with everything that appears.

Everything is created and destroyed, like the avatar dance I have in my profile, without limit. You, as a part conscious of yourself, can become conscious of yourself as the totality. To do this, you must do something difficult: break the centrality, the self, like a soap bubble that bursts and is no longer the bubble, it is everything. Without form or definition, without edges or ground, but you are still you. You are that.

This movement is very difficult, and it's easy to fall in traps. I'm consciousness, I'm god, I'm anything. You are unlimited, period. And to be conscious of that you have to become unlimited, really, not in your mind. It's an action, not a realization. An energetic shift. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Breakingthewall

[Monster Energy]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

There is no creator; it's quite simple and obvious. You are a part, as a form, and the whole, as let's say substance.

The whole is limitless, therefore it cannot be limited to being stable, empty, undifferentiated. Fluctuations arise, contrast, change relative to other change. Given the limitlessness of what is, limitless changes arise, overlapping in stable, coherent patterns related to each other, creating realities that endure because they are coherent with everything that appears.

Everything is created and destroyed, like the avatar dance I have in my profile, without limit. You, as a part conscious of yourself, can become conscious of yourself as a totality. To do this, you must do something difficult: break the centrality, the self, like a soap bubble that bursts and is no longer the bubble, it is everything. Without form or definition, without edges or ground, but you are still you. You are that.

I don’t understand how there are still people asking about this on this forum. It’s so obvious. It feels like the level of awareness here on the forum is just getting lower and lower every day, yet people keep asking questions as if the website has only existed for a week. This has to stop. It’s ridiculous.

 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Monster Energy

[Someone here]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

There is no creator; it's quite simple and obvious. You are a part, as a form, and the whole, as let's say substance.

The whole is limitless, therefore it cannot be limited to being stable, empty, undifferentiated. Fluctuations arise, contrast, change relative to other change. Given the limitlessness of what is, limitless changes arise, overlapping in stable, coherent patterns related to each other, creating realities that endure because they are coherent with everything that appears.

Everything is created and destroyed, like the avatar dance I have in my profile, without limit. You, as a part conscious of yourself, can become conscious of yourself as the totality. To do this, you must do something difficult: break the centrality, the self, like a soap bubble that bursts and is no longer the bubble, it is everything. Without form or definition, without edges or ground, but you are still you. You are that. This movement is very difficult, and it's easy to fall in traps. I'm consciousness, I'm god, I'm anything. You are unlimited, period. And to be conscious of that you have to become unlimited, really, not in your mind. It's an action, not a realization. An energetic shift. 
 

 

I have a question: I’m sensing language itself is limiting . If you are talking about something unlimited and unfixed you can keep talking about it forever without getting nowhere if by definition you can’t distill the unlimited which reality itself into words . Are you aware of this what I’m saying ? So let’s forget about trying to accomplish the impossible and find ways to approach the highest possible levels of embodying limitlessness . Cause there ain’t no limitlessness when you are identified with a body . So let’s get real or at least reasonable. What is your end game anyways ? For me I want to know the ultimate truth and experience the ultimate happiness. You ?

[Someone here]

24 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

I don’t understand how there are still people asking about this on this forum. It’s so obvious. It feels like the level of awareness here on the forum is just getting lower and lower every day, yet people keep asking questions as if the website has only existed for a week. This has to stop. It’s ridiculous.

 

 

 

What question that I asked which was discussed to death ?

[Monster Energy]

8 minutes ago, Someone here said:

What question that I asked which was discussed to death ?

Dude, are you seriously asking whether there is a creator? You’ve been on this site for a long time, and you’re asking questions that beginners would ask. It doesn’t make sense.

You know very well that you’ve previously shown a much deeper understanding of these topics. I’ve seen you write thoughtful and intelligent things about existence, which is why this feels confusing.

Now it comes across as if your tone has shifted in a different direction, and it feels inconsistent with how you used to express yourself. You need to be more clear and grounded in what you actually think instead of writing in a way that feels contradictory or unfocused.

Sometimes it even makes me wonder if someone else is using your account, because you’re asking things you seemed to already understand months ago.

 

[Someone here]

@Monster Energy I asked to imply I know the answer . Who would have created anything other than me ? Means indeed there cannot be anyone else who created anything other than me . Not that I don’t know the answer and I asked for it . I implied that the answer to the question is already known and obvious. Cool ?

[Monster Energy]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

@Monster Energy I asked to imply I know the answer . Who would have created anything other than me ? Means indeed there cannot be anyone else who created anything other than me . Not that I don’t know the answer and I asked for it . I implied that the answer to the question is already known and obvious. Cool ?

The fact that you’re even asking this shows some doubt. Even if it sounds confident on the surface, it comes across as if you’re looking for validation from others, which isn’t something someone who is truly certain would need.

You’re not expressing yourself the way you usually do. I’ve seen you be sharp, thoughtful, and intelligent, and this doesn’t match that.

You should hold yourself to that same level instead of asking questions that seem beneath your own understanding. It ends up sounding like asking something obvious, like whether your own hair is short or long.

You’re capable of much clearer and stronger thinking than this, so express yourself accordingly. 

 

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

You know very well that you’ve previously shown a much deeper understanding of these topics. I’ve seen you write thoughtful and intelligent things about existence, which is why this feels confusing.

Now it comes across as if your tone has shifted in a different direction, and it feels inconsistent with how you used to express yourself. You need to be more clear and grounded in what you actually think instead of writing in a way that feels contradictory or unfocused.

Thank you for bringing this up let me explain what’s going on. I write what occurs to me in the moment without second thought .  Knowing is the biggest illusion . If someone today asked me who created this universe I would say the cosmic me or The Self. You can ask me any other time the same questions and I would say it came from nothing through the Big Bang for no reason .   Why such inconsistency ? Because what occurs in the moment is what is being expressed . Why do you one day feel out of sorts and another day you feel like you’re flying from happiness ? Haven’t you ever known a false information then you changed your mind ? As simple as that ? Pretty far out there to expect from humans ?

[Monster Energy]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Thank you for bringing this up let me explain what’s going on. I write what occurs to me in the moment without second thought .  Knowing is the biggest illusion . If someone today asked me who created this universe I would say the cosmic me or The Self. You can ask me any other time the same questions and I would say it came from nothing through the Big Bang for no reason .   Why such inconsistency ? Because what occurs in the moment is what is being expressed . Why do you one day feel out of sorts and another day you feel like you’re flying from happiness ? Haven’t you ever known a false information then you changed your mind ? As simple as that ? Pretty far out there to expect from humans ?

You’re mixing up two different things. Changing your mind based on new understanding is one thing, but what you’re describing is a lack of clarity, not depth.

Saying that “knowing is an illusion” doesn’t justify giving completely different answers to the same fundamental question. That’s not wisdom, that’s inconsistency.

 

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Monster Energy said:

The fact that you’re even asking this shows some doubt. Even if it sounds confident on the surface, it comes across as if you’re looking for validation from others, which isn’t something someone who is truly certain would need.

You’re not expressing yourself the way you usually do. I’ve seen you be sharp, thoughtful, and intelligent, and this doesn’t match that.

You should hold yourself to that same level instead of asking questions that seem beneath your own understanding. It ends up sounding like asking something obvious, like whether your own hair is short or long.

You’re capable of much clearer and stronger thinking than this, so express yourself accordingly. 

 

  no. i refuse to "pick a constant style and commit to it" . im not a parrort or a robot . Im a human being living life going through knoweldge and ignorance.  
im not gonna say something that doesn’t feel authentic to me … or true to me in the moment.  
try this : think the thought “ I’m convinced that the earth is spherical not flat “ . Now stop . Hold on to that thought . 
 

[Someone here]

You see regular posters here you’d guess what are their rigid opinions are .

 But you never know what Someone here will come up with .

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

Cause there ain’t no limitlessness when you are identified with a body . So let’s get real or at least reasonable. What is your end game anyways ? For me I want to know the ultimate truth and experience the ultimate happiness. You ?

The point is to be able to open yourself to your unlimited nature from within the form, whereby the form loses its character of "essential " and your emotional system changes completely; you cease to be totally attached to the form, you cease to be trapped and you are freed, so that your existence ceases to be a nightmare and becomes a pleasure

[Someone here]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The point is to be able to open yourself to your unlimited nature from within the form, whereby the form loses its character of "essential " and your emotional system changes completely; you cease to be totally attached to the form, you cease to be trapped and you are freed, so that your existence ceases to be a nightmare and becomes a pleasure

Open your self to your unlimited nature from within the form . You get to maintain your identification with your body ? Then what have you done? Nothing . You still limited. It’s like you are saying become unlimited while you’re limited .