Actualized Quotes #485

[Christoph Werner]

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"It is like I was blind my whole life but now I see"  So you finally stopped being naive? This was one thing i didnt understand about you, you can explain the mechanics of corruption so well (the social matrix, mankind the bulshitting animal, self deception 1,2,3, understanding survival...)  but you still got tricked. It's so easy to see corruption, why only now you see it?  for me i look at someone, i listen to them 10 seconds and i can tell if they are full of it or not. or to which degree. it's like sensing corruption directly, no need to even explain. the explanation is in the structure of the energy. energy doesnt lie.  People who dont have this sense look ridiculous to me, they fall for so much, they are manipulated so easily.  

So Leo, you hold us to high standards, you tell us to be open minded, but in certain topics, you kill the whole conversation by screaming conspiracy theorist. Is that how to have grown up talk?  Maybe you can shine your newly dicovered sense on the covid pandemic? you have some time? I mean you told your forum to go get vaxxed everything else is insane. pretty big claims , no?     

People deeply underestimate the level of corruption that is possible. There are networks of people that see the world like a board of chess, they sacrifized their humanity for their power accumulation addiction. they organize in groups, they are very intelligent and committed. they designed our economic system to be their wealth extraction machinery. 

The **Wealth Extraction Machinery** is a debt-based system in which nearly all money is created as loans. When a person, company, or government takes a loan, new money is created out of nothing by the bank. However, this money must be paid back with interest. This creates a permanent structural requirement: the economy must grow every year just to cover the interest payments. Without constant growth, the system eventually collapses.

This mechanism turns the entire economy into a sophisticated extraction machine. Wealth flows systematically upward because:

- The people and institutions closest to the source of money creation (major banks, central banks, large financial players) benefit first from every new round of debt.
- New money floods the system and inflates the price of assets (stocks, real estate, infrastructure). Those who already own these assets get richer faster, while wages for normal people lag behind.
- Crises accelerate this transfer. During recessions, wars, or shocks, ordinary people and smaller businesses are forced to sell assets cheaply or go bankrupt. The top players, with access to cheap credit, buy those assets at discounted prices. When the economy recovers, the assets rise in value again — creating another massive upward wealth transfer.

This is why crises are fueled, prolonged and even orchestrated. Destruction creates new demand, new debt, and new opportunities for extraction.

The system strongly selects for a specific type of person at the top: individuals who can sacrifice empathy and humanity without guilt, who view suffering as collateral damage. These people naturally form tight networks and dynasties (such as the Rothschilds and Warburgs historically), intermarry strategically, and maintain close ties to banks and intelligence agencies — the real centers of control.

In short: The machinery doesn’t just allow wealth to concentrate at the top — it is structurally designed to do exactly that. It rewards cold, calculating, long-term strategic thinking and punishes empathy and short-term morality. Crises, wars, and instability are not bugs. They are built-in features that keep the extraction process running.

That’s why the whole construct feels so ruthless and self-perpetuating. It wasn’t an accident — it was engineered that way, and it continues to reward exactly the kind of people who can maintain it. 

They can put a dementia patient as president and people still dont get it, they can put a delusional narcisistic chronological liar as president and people still dont get it. they can make people believe a skyscraper can collapse in free fall from a fire. It's really quite absurd.  

 

 

[Leo Gura]

Nice try.

Do not use what I said to justify your conspiracy theories.

Your theories are still wrong.

Obviously capitalism concentrates wealth at the top. I never had any illusions about that. Marxists have been saying this for 150 years. Capitalism is not a conspiracy theory.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Christoph Werner]

The monetary system we have today  wasn’t an accident of nature. It was deliberately designed by powerful bankers and politicians (Jekyll Island 1910, Federal Reserve Act 1913). This design creates a built-in, permanent growth imperative. Without constant expansion, the system collapses under its own debt load.

Doesn’t that make it more than just “capitalism naturally concentrating wealth”? Isn’t it a structurally rigged wealth extraction machine that was intentionally engineered to do exactly that — move wealth upward, reward crises, and select for cold, power-addicted personalities at the top?

Where do you draw the line between “this is just how capitalism works” and “this system was deliberately built to function as an extraction mechanism”?

[Leo Gura]

@Christoph Werner Of course every business is designed to extract maximum profits. Calling that a conspiracy is kinda silly.

Of course bankers and politicians try to shape whatever they can to suit their worldview and needs. Every human in power is doing that. But most of them have very limited power. They control tiny parts of the whole system.

What you regard as conspiracies, I regard as civilization running it course.

Yes, bankers shape the economy. Who else would? That's pretty much their job. They are trying to create a system that fits their worldview, which is biased to flavor themselves.

Edited 8 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Christoph Werner]

Leo, I never called it a conspiracy.

I’m simply describing what I see: Our monetary and economic system was deliberately designed to function as a wealth extraction machinery. Money is created as debt that must be repaid with interest, which creates a built-in, permanent growth imperative.

I’m not saying one person, one group, or one family controls everything.

What I am saying is that powerful bankers and politicians intentionally engineered the core rules of the system (see Jekyll Island 1910 and the Federal Reserve Act 1913) in a way that systematically moves wealth upward, rewards crises, and favors cold, strategic, power-oriented personalities at the top.

That’s not a conspiracy theory. That’s historical fact and structural mechanics.

Who defines what is a conspiracy and what isn't?

If the media calls Something a conspiracy, does that mean i can just dismiss it because it's obviously wrong? I dont get it, why make this distinction?

[Leo Gura]

You were talking about 9/11 inside job.