How Do You Relate to Reality, Self, World?

[CARDOZZO]

After going deep on spirituality and self-actualization, how do you relate to people, reality, mind, society?

What is your baseline consciousness? What it looks like to be you as a normal human being? 

I am curious because baseline consciousness is where you really see if your development is happening.

Do you see reality as a physical thing? Do you see other people as separate?

 

Edited 10 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[gettoefl]

There are two ways to live. Look at every tree and say I know everything about this that could possibly be known. Or every moment say I am willing to have the meaning revealed. This is the only worthwhile epistemology - leading naturally to the fullness of consciousness. 

[CARDOZZO]

34 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

There are two ways to live. Look at every tree and say I know everything about this that could possibly be known. Or every moment say I am willing to have the meaning revealed. This is the only worthwhile epistemology - leading naturally to the fullness of consciousness. 

Ok. 

When a barista is giving your coffee, how do you experience it?

[CARDOZZO]

Sometimes I feel like a fraud. 

I study deep topics, read, watch videos, study, contemplate. The experience of life looks like physical, rigid, normal, boring.

Is it how you live? 

[gettoefl]

2 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Ok. 

When a barista is giving your coffee, how do you experience it?

They are goddesses for me. Pure love. But I guess I live in a nice place. 

What about yourself?

[gettoefl]

2 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Sometimes I feel like a fraud. 

I study deep topics, read, watch videos, study, contemplate. The experience of life looks like physical, rigid, normal, boring.

Is it how you live? 

I'd say you are imposing poverty on your experience. Let richness be revealed.

[CARDOZZO]

3 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

They are goddesses for me. Pure love. But I guess I live in a nice place. 

What about yourself?

I experience a physical person doing a job.

Normal ordinary consciousness.

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[gettoefl]

My standard farewell to everyone I meet is:

Lots of love

[gettoefl]

Just now, CARDOZZO said:

I experience a physical person doing a job.

Normal.ordinary consciousness.

You don't think you put them there to make you a lovely drink?

[UnbornTao]

@CARDOZZO I appreciate the no-BS approach. 

[CARDOZZO]

10 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

You don't think you put them there to make you a lovely drink?

No. 

I experience reality as a physical thing, where people are separate and have their own inner worlds. 

Nothing fantastical, imaginary, lovy, mystical.

I know I shouldn't turn this into an ideal but I am really curious what it is to experience life as a Construct-Aware/Turquoise Individual.

Is it really fantastical, different, mystical 24/7?

[CARDOZZO]

• How do you embody your spiritual insights?
• How do you live life as a Sage?
• What is your perceptive experience as a Awakened God-Realized Individual?

Try to be clear and specific with your language. 

How do you see? What do you feel? What are your mental models? How do you relate? Where is your POV? Above your head? Inside your head?

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[CARDOZZO]

50 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

@CARDOZZO I appreciate the no-BS approach. 

[CARDOZZO]

• How do you experience yourself? Human? Aiien? Nothingness? Awareness?
• How do you imagine reality? Dream? Movie? Normal Life? Physical? Ethereal? God's Mind?

[gettoefl]

15 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

No. 

I experience reality as a physical thing, where people are separate and have their own inner worlds. 

Nothing fantastical, imaginary, lovy, mystical.

I know I shouldn't turn this into an ideal but I am really curious what it is to experience life as a Construct-Aware/Turquoise Individual.

Is it really fantastical, different, mystical 24/7?

No it is completely ordinary. Our default is to make everything separate and scary. We need to decide to drop this any time we can remember. This opens us up to what is real. Eventually it can be the default. 

[gettoefl]

16 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

• How do you embody your spiritual insights?
• How do you live life as a Sage?
• What is your perceptive experience as a Awakened God-Realized Individual?

Try to be clear and specific with your language. 

How do you see? What do you feel? What are your mental models? How do you relate? Where is your POV? Above your head? Inside your head?

It isn't what you see; it is how you see. What you see does not change. You decide to see it right. And then all you see is light.

[CARDOZZO]

33 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

It isn't what you see; it is how you see. What you see does not change. You decide to see it right. And then all you see is light.

Why can't you be specific, accurate, clear and precise with your language?

You are just mumbling random words.

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[gettoefl]

Just now, CARDOZZO said:

Why can't you be specific, accurate, clear and precise with your language?

A 5yo can understand this. Which word is difficult?

[CARDOZZO]

31 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

A 5yo can understand this. Which word is difficult?

Be serious. Do you really want to interact or just say random things?

If you came to a thread to just spread vague words when I tell you to be specific, you are not serious about your communication and interaction. 

 

[CARDOZZO]

Why is it so difficult to have a normal/decent conversation here? 

Edited 9 hours ago by CARDOZZO