What a beautiful death

[Breakingthewall]

9 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Why, because existence implies life which is impossible without death. 
 

Life is a manifestation of reality. Death is inherent to life; it is its dissolution. But what you are is not the form that dissolves, but its source. If you are open to it, death is something that happens within you, not to you.

[Breakingthewall]

On 18/3/2026 at 5:30 AM, James123 said:

Imagine the sheer liberation of a conscious fall. Even as you drop, you are present enough to feel the air rushing past you, whispering a final, graceful goodbye to the universe. What a profound relief. What a total, crystalline freedom.

Liberation from what? I am free now, and I cannot die, because I am what is. Right now I am the unfathomable depth that is, and I will always be. And the beauty of being is total, because it's everything. There are no limits. 

[VeganAwake]

7 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Liberation from what? I am free now, and I cannot die, because I am what is. Right now I am the unfathomable depth that is, and I will always be. And the beauty of being is total, because it's everything. There are no limits. 

Then you're actually a prisoner of life. Not being able to die is a limit?

Sorry 😞 

[GodisOne]

On 3/24/2026 at 7:58 AM, Mellowmarsh said:

If death never happened, then an infinite self-transforming existence doesn’t happen either. 
 

Knowing/ knowledge can only point to the illusory nature of Reality, in this conception.

Yes "an infinite self-transforming existence doesn’t happen either". It's not a thing for it to happen. It is Wholeness, undivided and free from the illusion of awareness.

"Knowing/ knowledge" points to the illusory nature of the illusion, not of Reality, which is that which is devoid of illusion, and thus cannot be described or known.

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Then you're actually a prisoner of life. Not being able to die is a limit?

Sorry 😞 

Life is only a possibility that is happening, reality is not life, life is a concrete configuration that starts and ends

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, GodisOne said:

Yes "an infinite self-transforming existence doesn’t happen either". It's not a thing for it to happen. It is Wholeness, undivided and free from the illusion of awareness.

"Knowing/ knowledge" points to the illusory nature of the illusion, not of Reality, which is that which is devoid of illusion, and thus cannot be described or known.

I agree.
Devoid of illusion , leaves a reality that’s an ineffable unknown.
 

An illusion knowing it’s an illusion generates a paradox where there isn’t one in reality. 

[Mellowmarsh]

11 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

If you are open to it, death is something that happens within you, not to you.

You can only know the you that lives and dies. You cannot know the you that does not live or die. 
 

You can only know noun reality not verb reality… in this conception. 
 

The you cannot predicate the you’s existence except in this conception as and through the (mental realm) or dreamscape phenomena.

 

 

[Ziran]

4 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Not being able to die is a limit?

Death limits.  Immortality doesn't.

Edited 4 hours ago by Ziran

[Breakingthewall]

58 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You can only know the you that lives and dies. You cannot know the you that does not live or die. 
 

You can only know noun reality not verb reality… in this conception. 
 

The you cannot predicate the you’s existence except in this conception as and through the (mental realm) or dreamscape phenomena.

 

 

4 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

 

This fragment of the tao te ching expresses it quite good

Lao-Tzu — Chapter XVI
Attain emptiness
to preserve peace.
From the bustling arising of all things,
contemplate their return.
All beings grow in agitation,
but then, each returns to its root.
To return to the root is to find rest.
To rest is to return to one’s destiny.
To return to one’s destiny is to know eternity.
To know eternity is to be enlightened.
He who does not know eternity
walks blindly toward misfortune.
He who knows eternity embraces all.
He who embraces all is great.
He who is great is celestial.
He who is celestial is like the Tao.
He who is like the Tao endures.
Though his life comes to an end, he does not perish.

[James123]

12 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Liberation from what? I am free now, and I cannot die, because I am what is. Right now I am the unfathomable depth that is, and I will always be. And the beauty of being is total, because it's everything. There are no limits. 

Liberation from believer, who believes the sentences above or any sentences true or not true, false or not false.

Even saying as believing there is such thing true or not true is a limitation. Or even even believing limitation is limitation.

Edited 3 hours ago by James123

[Mellowmarsh]

44 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

This fragment of the tao te ching expresses it quite good

Lao-Tzu — Chapter XVI
Attain emptiness
to preserve peace.
From the bustling arising of all things,
contemplate their return.
All beings grow in agitation,
but then, each returns to its root.
To return to the root is to find rest.
To rest is to return to one’s destiny.
To return to one’s destiny is to know eternity.
To know eternity is to be enlightened.
He who does not know eternity
walks blindly toward misfortune.
He who knows eternity embraces all.
He who embraces all is great.
He who is great is celestial.
He who is celestial is like the Tao.
He who is like the Tao endures.
Though his life comes to an end, he does not perish.

This is known. And that which is known knows nothing.

[Breakingthewall]

34 minutes ago, James123 said:

Liberation from believer, who believes the sentences above or any sentences true or not true, false or not false.

Even saying as believing there is such thing true or not true is a limitation. Or even even believing limitation is limitation.

It's not about believing statements, but about knowing and then expressing that knowledge with statements. For example, I might know that I have pain, and then say: I have pain in a bone. That doesn't mean I believe it, but rather that it's a reality I'm communicating.

31 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

This is known. And that which is known knows nothing.

Life is reality in dual mode. Dual mode means knowing. You know that you are, and you can know what you are if there is not hindrance in you.

[Mellowmarsh]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Life is reality in dual mode. Dual mode means knowing. You know that you are, and you can know what you are if there is not hindrance in you.

Knowing that you are is the known. The known is where the knowing begins and ends in the exact same instant the knowing arises, one with the knowing.

[James123]

40 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's not about believing statements, but about knowing and then expressing that knowledge with statements. For example, I might know that I have pain, and then say: I have pain in a bone. That doesn't mean I believe it, but rather that it's a reality I'm communicating.

Bullshit. Mind is not You. Arises and falls within, But not You.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

Bullshit

2 hours ago, James123 said:

 

You are so bitter and sad, oh enlightened

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

Mind is not You. Arises and falls within, But not You.

Teach us, oh severe and sad avatar. Please, teach insulting, as always. Then, oh special, if the mind arises, it's not me, who is? My mother? Maybe my cousin?