Veil of being spiritual, god, infinite or being something

[James123]

57 minutes ago, Ziran said:

Perception is being shaped by expectation.  The shaping is internal.  Because of this, it can be observed in isolation.  This simple fact escapes the tautology.

If there is such thing as observation, there is an observer and observed.

Observer, observation or not observing, not observation is matrix. 

Forget everything.

[Ziran]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

If there is such thing as observation, there is an observer and observed.

Observer, observation or not observing, not observation is matrix. 

Forget everything.

unsubstatiated denial is .... nevermind

[Mellowmarsh]

16 hours ago, Ziran said:

... imagine a ladder on the ground reaching up, up, up into the clouds.  I don't need to know how tall the ladder is to understand that the ladder is "tall".

It's like that

There’s nothing to understand. A concept is known, and the known knows nothing.

[Mellowmarsh]

12 hours ago, James123 said:

Forget everything.

This happens automatically. Everything that appears disappears instantly in the exact same moment.

Reality is unwritten, apparently rewriting what is ultimately unwritten as a false overlay.

Which makes it all BS .. I agree.

[Ziran]

3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

There’s nothing to understand. A concept is known, and the known knows nothing.

Contrary to popular belief, knowing isn't the only form of cognition.

[Joseph Maynor]

3 hours ago, Ziran said:

Contrary to popular belief, knowing isn't the only form of cognition.

I agree.  Feeling is an aspect of cognition for me.  Also intuition.

[Mellowmarsh]

3 hours ago, Ziran said:

Contrary to popular belief, knowing isn't the only form of cognition.

Nothing knows this.

[Ziran]

45 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I agree.  Feeling is an aspect of cognition for me.  Also intuition.

Yes, thank you.  Good examples, empathy and epiphany

[Ziran]

40 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Nothing knows this.

nothing = everything

[Ziran]

7 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

There’s nothing to understand. A concept is known, and the known knows nothing.

There's everything to understand.

A concept is known, and the known knows everything.