Tight Pattern/Routines conflated with...

[kavaris]

We have to start a thread on this, cause i never really looked at it w/ such clarity before: That is how we are conflating this notion of like perfect, harmonic frequency, and like the ability to be at peace w/ everything and everyone, w/ the notions of routine or regimen. As we dont see how deep the routine goes, how deep our individual patterns go, thus we dont see the "language" building blocks. Like, what im tryina get at is that, even our ability to speak and hear words involves these small, incremental routines that we are misunderstanding.

For instance, when we hear a word, or a string of sentences, we dont like "Hear words in order and interpret, done."  We rather hear "words" upon which we've then ordered in our head. We do all the arranging and ordering in a subconscious way in other words. And even when we are *thinking* that its happening straightforwardly in sequence, we are really actively putting them in sequence. And we can go one step further, cause even thing like reading these words right now, unless you are just skimming and scanning and ignoring everything, you are thinking that you are looking at, and retrieving words individually. But actually your mind jumps around, and makes bridges between words, thoughts and ideas, and its all being arranged back into a sequence.

When we hear "sounds in general", sounds in general have to be interpreted and placed into sequence, succh that they can be considered "sequential", like. The fact that we get "free sequences" is a lie. Like everything we do involved actively arranging it in our head.

Now im not sure i had a point to this or like, a good point of conversation to draw on, but i think yous can use this as like, a pillar/totem to get at the heart of other such things like this, cause surely this is just the beginning.

p.s. theres alot of things we conflate as well, so ill have to look at that old thread and figure out like, how do you order such things such that those things/ideas can be resurfaced; To later on~drop some knowledge, after we've figured out, or re-investigated that particular area of... iuno... whats the word... knowledge. i guess you call it "knowledge", like tie lopez's knowledge. jk. anyway. im done.

Edited 3 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

Oh Wait, There's a muscle memory element to it to, like. Hold on now. I have to write this all down, cause theres other stuff that im tryina remember, on top of the stuff we just said. So hold on now.

p.s. i accidentally deleted whatever i was writing. fck me. i have to try re remebering what it all was.

Edited 2 hours ago by kavaris

[Hojo]

That's interesting I never thought about how people talk and how we secretly arrange things in our heads. If you took someone's words directly without doing this it would probably not make any sense at all. We are kind putting past and future and present together but the person dosent nessasarily say that.

Like ordered gibberish.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hojo

[Arthogaan]

I am too lazy to respond more broadly, but I agree with your points and my book recommendations for you are two:

Rob Burbea - Seeing that Frees.      - he speaks there a lot how CONCEPTION = PERCEPTION. And goes very deep into the defabrication of that knot.

Yeshuani's work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOwaZB4k0M&t=1919s  - she speaks in terms of structure generating your life patterns and loops specific to you.

[Arthogaan]

I am too lazy to respond more broadly, but I agree with your points and my book recommendations for you are two:

Rob Burbea - Seeing that Frees.      - he speaks there a lot how CONCEPTION = PERCEPTION. And goes very deep into the defabrication of that knot.

Yeshuani's work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbOwaZB4k0M&t=1919s  - she speaks in terms of structure generating your life patterns and loops specific to you.