Mind / Experience/ Truth

[Joseph Maynor]

10 hours ago, James123 said:

Surrender anything you know, which is the accumulation of mind. Each thoughts steps away, each thought belongs to mind.

And whatever left is explanation of Truth..

It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.

You tend to say this on occasion.  This sounds plausible in theory but I've never seen it done in practice, ever.

[James123]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You tend to say this on occasion.  This sounds plausible in theory but I've never seen it done in practice, ever.

Do it, theory will vanishes.

What many and you / mind can not get it, the above you said is still mind.

Mind is fighting mind till it is surrendered o being witness till witness dissolves.

Then any conversation will be either necessary or unnecessary. Just conversations, like wind, arises and falls.

[Mellowmarsh]

7 minutes ago, James123 said:

Mind is fighting mind till

It is recognised that a situation or problem that is exacerbated by attempts to struggle with it or fix it, leads to becoming more "stuck" or involved.

The practice of no practice is child's play. Real reality has no theory.
Less struggle, less tension, leads to alignment with thee actual theory less truth.

[Joseph Maynor]

What if Truth actually requires the mind?

[James123]

34 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

What if Truth actually requires the mind?

If it was, you can get it through by reading, watching or listening. No need for direct recognition, which is dropping all recognition.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

If it was, you can get it through by reading, watching or listening. No need for direct recognition, which is dropping all recognition.

Well yes you need direct experience, but thoughts arise in direct experience too.  Only you can find Truth.  Listening to others becomes a kind of cosmic joke after a while.  Don't get me wrong, I love humor for different purposes.  Truth is found within, and only you can determine it for yourself.

[James123]

13 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Well yes you need direct experience, but thoughts arise in direct experience too.  Only you can find Truth.  Listening to others becomes a kind of cosmic joke after a while.  Don't get me wrong, I love humor for different purposes.  Truth is found within, and only you can determine it for yourself.

Direct experience is dropping the direct experience.