How Feminism Became The West's New Moral Authority

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, Alexop said:

They treat them the same as they treat women, because they see the feminine perspective as better. By treating them like women they cannot develop, because they don't really develop like women. They basically treat everyone the same, in a feminine way, because masculinity is evil. that is the ideology. 

They tear down the old system without replacing it with a new, better one. I think this was said before on this tread if I remember right. 

I get that the old system is dysfunctional, but if you don't understand how this works, better stay away. They are basically playing with fire thinking it is not a big deal. Like a cocky diy-er that kills himself by trying to fix his electrical system in the house. The problem is that is this case we are talking about, they are hurting everyone.

So they tell fathers or male coaches or teachers..... to not be mean to boys, to not push them to do hard things?

I'm not trying to argue yet, I don't understand what you're saying is happening. I think a specific example would be helpful for me to understand. They tell boys to not play contact sports? I'm not coming up with an example.

[Spiral]

No ideology that is 'Us vs Them' is healthy. Especially if you are afraid of 'them'. That doesn't mean that it doesn't have a point or valid criticism 

[Elliott]

If you look at the entire feminist movement, it incorporates feminism and masculinity, it's 'feminist' by name only means 'from women'. If you look at the feminist movement though, you see even women being supported in their 'masculine side'.

Telling boys to respect women does not mean to submit to women or abuse.

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[Elliott]

@Alexop

What action are you suggesting feminists take, what specifically should they stop saying or doing? Even just one example.

Women CEOs? Women politicians? Promoting Women in companies? ("Men and women are the same"). Talking over men? Dismissing men's opinions? Calling all men animals?

It could even be a social interaction, do feminists say something to males? Is there something they say politically? DEI?

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[Alexop]

19 minutes ago, Elliott said:

@Alexop

What action are you suggesting feminists take, what specifically should they stop saying or doing? Even just one example.

Women CEOs? Women politicians? Promoting Women in companies? ("Men and women are the same"). Talking over men? Dismissing men's opinions? Calling all men animals?

It could even be a social interaction, do feminists say something to males? Is there something they say politically? DEI?

There are women who like to work in a traditional masculine position. Doesn't matter what they work, they just need to understand how biology works. Their epistemology and ontology in regards to human development, history, biology is shit.

[Elliott]

5 minutes ago, Alexop said:

There are women who like to work in a traditional masculine position. Doesn't matter what they work, they just need to understand how biology works. Their epistemology and ontology in regards to human development, history, biology is shit.

So, they say stuff like men and women are the same? And this snowballs into boys being pussies?

[Alexop]

14 minutes ago, Elliott said:

So, they say stuff like men and women are the same? And this snowballs into boys being pussies?

More or less yes. 

It would be ok to just be "pussies", I mean to be like healthy women. Feminine but emotionally developed and nice, fun.

No, they often become disgusting, immature, lazy, boring as fuck, and even aggressive. Because immaturity spirals into aggression. Those soy-dads who look like they would not hurt a fly become aggressive when pushed to their limits due to constant complaints (very often legit) from their women. 

By the way this was true even before all this feminism wave. We had such disgusting men even 200 years ago. My argument is that feminism does not help this, it only fixes women. We need some sort of menism that will fix men.

I think we lost the art of building men when we developed sedentary civilizations. With the raise of Stage Red and patriarchal structures, men started to drift away from their inner wisdom and balance.

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[Elliott]

3 minutes ago, Alexop said:

More or less yes. 

It would be ok to just be "pussies", I mean to be like healthy women. Feminine but emotionally developed and nice, fun.

No, they often become disgusting, immature, lazy, boring as fuck, and even aggressive. Because immaturity spirals into aggression. Those soy-dads who look like they would not hurt a fly become aggressive when pushed to their limits due to constant complaints (very often legit) from their women. 

So, mothers, female teacher, etc., tell these boys what? To make them pussies. Don't play with legos, girls are smarter than you, girls are just as physically strong as boys? Is there any better example that turns a boy effeminate?

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[Alexop]

@Elliott man, as I said. They are women and see the world from the female perspective. They did a good job with women. I love Green women, a few of them exaggerate with their woke shit but generally they are okay. They overstretch themselves into too much political shit, that would be the problem. But I mostly blame men for mens problems. This redpill movement that strictly blame feminism for all their problems is a cheap skapegoat.

We need men to create some sort of menism that will fix men. Give me some boys and a few years with them and I will make them men. I know how to build men because I went through the process. If there is someone who knows how to build men, it is a man who went through the process himself.

[Elliott]

23 minutes ago, Alexop said:

 

By the way this was true even before all this feminism wave. We had such disgusting men even 200 years ago. My argument is that feminism does not help this, it only fixes women. We need some sort of menism that will fix men.

Ahh. Yes feminism is only focused on helping women, it's by women, I think it's more on men to know mens problems.

[Elliott]

2 minutes ago, Alexop said:

@Elliott 

We need men to create some sort of menism that will fix men. 

Yep

[Elliott]

@Alexop

On 2/25/2026 at 4:14 AM, Elliott said:

Come on, this has to be one of your life purposes!

All the podcast bros are brainwashing guys down the toilet. We need a couple healthy minded ones. Just start a podcast learning about everything or something, and interviewing people.

 

Jordan peterson, Alex hormozi, Tate; they're filling a vacuum, we need good male role models. We need to work on male culture. Women can only really help point out problem areas, they can't really solve everything for us on their own.

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[Alexop]

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Jordan peterson, Alex hormozi, Tate; they're filling a vacuum, we need good male role models. We need to work on male culture. Women can only really help point out problem areas, they can't really solve everything for us on their own.

Yes! We need good men instead of those morons.