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Do men and women awaken equally ?

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@Natasha Tori Maru pretty much concept or labeling vs. direct experience and egoic structure driving this, yes.

Information for the sake of information, pathological thinking in form of labeling, desire of control disguised as "understanding", egoic identity forming through subjective "truths".

Could have been more short and precise in last post 😂 

@Xonas Pitfall tell the hot witch seductress to bring her friends, there are more use cases for them 


Here are smart words that present my apparent identity but don't mean anything. At all. 

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@theleelajoker Gotcha. As I read through, it seemed to me you were organically putting to text these concepts you were seeing played out as repeated patterns, in your own unique way. You gave me the ammo - I just simplified so I could better understand your perspective :) 

I find summarising back helps a lot to avoid misunderstanding.

Muchas gracias!


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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2 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@theleelajoker Gotcha. As I read through, it seemed to me you were organically putting to text these concepts you were seeing played out as repeated patterns, in your own unique way. You gave me the ammo - I just simplified so I could better understand your perspective :) 

I find summarising back helps a lot to avoid misunderstanding.

Muchas gracias!

Back then , I was too tired to structure the information in a high quality manner. Typing on cellphone did not help either.

Summarizing and paraphrasing are HUGE re right understanding, 100% agree.

Once I could see the patterns, it's crazy how dominant thinking, labeling, categorizing is in our culture.

Watching Joe Hudson in action doing coaching also left a giant impression on me. With a lot of love, and charme, and care he cuts through that. To paraphrase him in simplified way:

"I'm gonna stop you talking right here. If you continue this story, you just gonna make it harder for both of us. Ok you say you feel XYZ (anger, sadness, incompetence,...) How you know that?Where you feel that in your body? Ok, Feel that. Love that part. You can't ? There's resistance? Ok, feel that. Love that resistance.

You say don't know how to do that? You say you can't because reality is XYZ? Stop creating that story. You know how. You just did it. Stop the story, stop labeling,  just do it."

 

 

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On 1/17/2026 at 10:34 PM, Terell Kirby said:

gender aside- how tolerant are you in terms of being socially isolated and misunderstood?

That's the central question for any human seeking Awakening.

It was stated a while back that woman's survival and sense of self is often shaped by her social bonds.

Cutting all that off for Truth poses a bigger risk to survival than men in many cases.

Correct. Lol.

I know transitioning might look like self-deception from the outside, but it also isn't. I don't identify as the random checkboxes they hand me , I identify as consciousness itself. The divine androgyne. I decided to take estradiol valerate injections and bicalutamide, pursue laser hair removal, to understand feminine energy from the inside. Not to "become a woman" in some checkbox sense  to dissolve the binary and experience the other pole of existence directly.

I am also awake. It's been a while since I visited this forum. I finally achieved autonomy of mind and have been deepening it ever since.

I finished rehab recently to get my life in order. I used to come here operating on a Zen-Devil level. And in rehab, I noticed something: more masculine women care slightly more about truth. Very feminine women? Truth doesn't even register. If I spoke a truth aloud they would deflect, switch subjects, or leave the room. They literally couldn't handle it.

I experienced harassment at extreme levels  Casa Trinity, Mount Laurel. Got fucked over and no one cared about the truths of what occurred. Women avoid any truth brought up, I noticed. Sure, it's a generalization, but it holds. A few women loved Leo's videos, maybe two: Tina and Mindy. The others would chitchat, hide, leave the room, fuck around, cry.

Here's the kicker: my estrogen levels are now higher than theirs. I'm likely intersex. My testosterone was lower than most cis women not before HRT(was like 803). I'm 24 days in. I'm also very big, I used to bodybuild(blackbelt in Moxed forms of MMA AND JUJITSU)amd  so people don't phase me. I forced myself into these environments as female-presenting before attending university this fall to see how women actually are and experience a new way of being.

The insanity lies in how some of these women have no womb, can't produce babies and mistreat me because I make them feel less womanly. Most ciswoman are deeply identified with their gender marker. It is so weird to see.. Upon leaving they threw out over 200$ Worth of my fucking shit. Disrespected me bc the truth is I appear female, I am not a sexual threat, treated them like a sage but also stood my ground. Made others fear me. I would catch every lie and trap, did kriya and sophisticated sadhanas in my single bedroom while they played serious illegal mind games. Truth always hurts and makes others uncomfortable. Most women are protected from feeling any kind of hurt.  When I speak such relative truths I end up getting banned on reddit. Hopefully you can see some nuggets of gold in my personal experience(cached with layers=I am black and look like Lenny kravitz or his sister when makeup and attire is on).

I won't be sterile. I took all precautions. I love the divine androgyne principle. I did this because I wanted to. Like every experiment in my life and I take it to the max, stay consistent, do extreme research.

So: how much are you willing to do for truth? Do you have the balls? 🤣

Male and female is relative. You could be intersex or possess higher testosterone naturally as a woman, or lower estradiol levels that affect your direction. It isn't binary in nature. I don't know what it is. Energy? Polarity? Something deeper?

I realized that once you go so absolutely meta that you aren't affected by social isolation or being misunderstood, you awaken. Deeply. And it goes even deeper. And deeper still. Yes!  

@Leo Gura has been very accurate lately. I have watched everything at least 3x and converted video-->audios&Transcripts. I take my own notes and contemplate from first principles as Aristotle is one of my favorite philosophers!

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