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8 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

This statement is asserting the I can't see the knowledge and thoughts.

So my question to the statement is...If I can't see the knowledge and thoughts, can I KNOW what I assert I cannot see?

No. Ask this, who knows?


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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2 hours ago, James123 said:

No. Ask this, who knows?

But why would you ask who knows when knowing is already the case, knowing is already known to be happening. And that you are aware of this knowing happening. You already are the knowing. You know you exist , even if you don’t know how or why or who knows. You know that fire burns and you know you can’t breathe under water. You know not to stab your eyes with a red hot poker.

There’s something fundamentally wrong with that question that demands an answer of who? Don’t you think?


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3 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

But why would you ask who knows when knowing is already the case, knowing is already known to be happening. And that you are aware of this knowing happening. You already are the knowing. You know you exist , even if you don’t know how or why or who knows. You know that fire burns and you know you can’t breathe under water. You know not to stab your eyes with a red hot poker.

There’s something fundamentally wrong with that question that demands an answer of who? Don’t you think?

Enlightenment or awakening is realization of you are not the body, mind or universe. Then whatever left is what You really are.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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26 minutes ago, James123 said:

Enlightenment or awakening is realization of you are not the body, mind or universe. Then whatever left is what You really are.

Okay. I get that. 
 

There’s nothing else to say after that realisation is there. You just remain as the silent witness for eternity, right?


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James, what do you think about this Ayn Rand idea, quote, or whatever this knowledge is….?

 

“ To exist is to be something, as distinguished from the nothing of non-existence...": This asserts that existence isn't abstract; it's concrete. To be is to be a thing, not nothing.

"...it is to be an entity of a specific nature made of specific attributes.": This explains what that "something" is. An existing thing (an entity) has defining characteristics (attributes) that make it what it is.

"Existence is identity.": This is the core principle, often summarized as "A is A" (the Law of Identity). It means everything that exists has a unique, unchanging nature; a thing cannot be itself and something else simultaneously.

"A thing is—what it is; its characteristics constitute its identity.": This reinforces the idea that an existent without its attributes would be non-existent, as attributes are what define it. 

In essence, Rand argues that reality is a matter of specific, identifiable things, and denying this identity is a form of self-contradiction, leading to a rejection of reality itself. 

 

 


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37 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Okay. I get that. 
 

There’s nothing else to say after that realisation is there. You just remain as the silent witness for eternity, right?

İt is exactly like this: body moves, earth rounds, birds flies. Life has it's own movement already. As me trying to involve or control, then suffering starts. 

İf you do not involve, you disseappear.

Dropping all ownership, including a having an idea.

34 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

James, what do you think about this Ayn Rand idea, quote, or whatever this knowledge is….?

 

“ To exist is to be something, as distinguished from the nothing of non-existence...": This asserts that existence isn't abstract; it's concrete. To be is to be a thing, not nothing.

"...it is to be an entity of a specific nature made of specific attributes.": This explains what that "something" is. An existing thing (an entity) has defining characteristics (attributes) that make it what it is.

"Existence is identity.": This is the core principle, often summarized as "A is A" (the Law of Identity). It means everything that exists has a unique, unchanging nature; a thing cannot be itself and something else simultaneously.

"A thing is—what it is; its characteristics constitute its identity.": This reinforces the idea that an existent without its attributes would be non-existent, as attributes are what define it. 

In essence, Rand argues that reality is a matter of specific, identifiable things, and denying this identity is a form of self-contradiction, leading to a rejection of reality itself. 

 

 

This is little bit complex. İt is actually this: what you gain since birth, loosing everything, every peace of knowledge (and that's what is you, created you or accumulation of you).

Ego is form of knowledge, which is created by experiences, feelings etc... Actually, body feels and experience yet breaking point is when there is no owner, your universe dies, only universe continues. 

So, You always what You are. Universe arises with body and falls with body.


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