The Great Bernadette Roberts

[gettoefl]

2 hours ago, RisingLane said:

The part I really don't agree with is this (from The Real Christ):

In my opinion, that's the weakest paragraph she's ever written.

God knows nothing about good or bad. Good or bad are distortions. God knows oneness. We all know good and bad right? and in that we are sadly mistaken. They don't exist. To no longer judge good and bad is the way back to God. Don't see good, don't see bad, see God instead. Do you understand? That's the practice. Jesus was the first we know of who did this. He saw God everywhere and thus was able to do miraculous deeds at will. I need to see God, to know God, to act like God. As BR says, we are no different from Jesus. Because God doesn't make people and personalities; God makes sameness and blank-slates everywhere. She is absolutely right.

Edited 2 hours ago by gettoefl

[RisingLane]

9 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

God knows nothing about good or bad. Good or bad are distortions. God knows oneness. We all know good and bad right? and in that we are sadly mistaken. They don't exist. To no longer judge good and bad is the way back to God. Don't see good, don't see bad, see God instead. That's the practice. Jesus was the first we know of who did this. He saw God everywhere and thus was able to do miraculous deeds at will. I need to see God, to know God, to act like God. As BR says, we are no different from Jesus.

I understand your point, but the idea that "man determines his own person by his own free will" strikes me as incorrect.

Did Hitler truly shape himself? Did Jesus do anything other than fulfill his predetermined path? "Not my will, but yours be done."

Jesus wasn’t even born into the egoic state of consciousness, so why should he be given credit?

[gettoefl]

5 minutes ago, RisingLane said:

I understand your point, but the idea that "man determines his own person by his own free will" strikes me as incorrect.

Did Hitler truly shape himself? Did Jesus do anything other than fulfill his predetermined path? "Not my will, but yours be done."

Jesus wasn’t even born into the egoic state of consciousness, so why should he be given credit?

I edited some clarifications above. Society is what conditions and programs. Everyone is actually the same and can choose to be Jesus or Hitler or anywhere in between. It's all a choice and all up to each person.

Edited 2 hours ago by gettoefl

[RisingLane]

26 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

I edited some clarifications above. Society is what conditions and programs. Everyone is actually the same and can choose to be Jesus or Hitler or anywhere in between. It's all a choice and all up to each person.

Alright, if that's the case, I want to be Jesus.

More than anything in this life, I desire no-self, but apparently, it's not an easy path. Even Roberts needed 20 years in the marketplace stage.