Letting Go

[Mellowmarsh]

True "letting go" isn't a forceful act of giving up, but a natural consequence of deep, non-dualistic seeing (insight) into the true, empty, interconnected nature of reality, revealing the "self" as an illusion, thus dissolving attachment and allowing effortless release, unlike forced detachment which remains a form of clinging.

[Mellowmarsh]

You can't decide to let go of the ego; you see through the ego's illusion, and then letting go simply happens as a natural function of that clear seeing, leading to profound inner peace and freedom. 

[Joseph Maynor]

@Mellowmarsh  What is the illusion of the ego?

[Mellowmarsh]

23 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

@Mellowmarsh  What is the illusion of the ego?

Ultimately there is not-even a letting go or let be, as there is already continuous dissolving and arising and this ever dissolving and arising turns out to be self-liberating. Without this ‘self’ or ‘Self’, there is no ‘doing’, there is only spontaneous arising. 
 

The ego is the illusory sense of a self where there isn’t one except as belief in the mind.

[Joseph Maynor]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Ultimately there is not-even a letting go or let be, as there is already continuous dissolving and arising and this ever dissolving and arising turns out to be self-liberating. Without this ‘self’ or ‘Self’, there is no ‘doing’, there is only spontaneous arising. 
 

The ego is the illusory sense of a self where there isn’t one except as belief in the mind.

I like this, but I'm wondering if the idea of surrender occurs all the time or only some of the time?  I feel like I'm good at this sometimes, but not all the time.  (I'm assuming spiritual enlightenment means it should be True all the time.)

[Mellowmarsh]

7 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I like this, but I'm wondering if the idea of surrender occurs all the time or only some of the time?  I feel like I'm good at this sometimes, but not all the time.  (I'm assuming spiritual enlightenment means it should be True all the time.)

Thanks, the idea of surrender occurs all the time for me personally. I can’t speak for others.

For me personally, I’ve undergone the painstaking process of deconstructing the mental constructs of concepts. I’m no longer seduced by the “blinding spell” of concepts, rather I see through their empty nature. I’ve realised the images on the screen of consciousness are equal to the projected of this projection. For me it’s all Light, or Emptiness looking at itself through it’s own mirror effect. Reified through the process of conceptual construction, deconstructed.

Hopefully this doesn’t sound too salady.

 

[Joseph Maynor]

8 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Thanks, the idea of surrender occurs all the time for me personally. I can’t speak for others.

For me personally, I’ve undergone the painstaking process of deconstructing the mental constructs of concepts. I’m no longer seduced by the “blinding spell” of concepts, rather I see through their empty nature. I’ve realised the images on the screen of consciousness are equal to the projected of this projection. For me it’s all Light, or Emptiness looking at itself through it’s own mirror effect. Reified through the process of conceptual construction, deconstructed.

Hopefully this doesn’t sound too salady.

 

Have you similarly deconstructed feelings like you have thoughts?  Are feelings of a different nature than thoughts?

I've been through phases like this but I felt like I was having to try to do this.  Eventually I just surrendered trying to surrender.  I feel like if I have to remind myself of something, that's not Truth.  I have a sense of Truth inside and it doesn't require me to practice anything.

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[James123]

25 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I've been through phases like this but I felt like I was having to try to do this.  Eventually I just surrendered trying to surrender.  I feel like if I have to remind myself of something, that's not Truth.  I have a sense of Truth inside and it doesn't require me to practice anything.

Practicing=me=action=life=trying to surrender.

Just Be and there is no method for this. Just fall from cliff. Therefore, let the body and mind play.

Enlightenment or what You are is so simple. That's why you=action is always the mind.

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, James123 said:

Practicing=me=action=life=trying to surrender.

Just Be and there is no method for this. Just fall from cliff. Therefore, let the body and mind play.

Enlightenment or what You are is so simple. That's why you=action is always the mind.

I feel like my mind is usually my friend.  Maybe I'm unusual in this way.  I do not see a need to check the mind.  

[Mellowmarsh]

9 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Have you similarly deconstructed feelings like you have thoughts?  Are feelings of a different nature than thoughts?

I've been through phases like this but I felt like I was having to try to do this.  Eventually I just surrendered trying to surrender.  I feel like if I have to remind myself of something, that's not Truth.  I have a sense of Truth inside and it doesn't require me to practice anything.

For me personally, it’s not necessarily a phase, or a fad so to speak, it’s more to do with the recognition of being “in phase” with life, and surrendering to it without making any grunting and grinding noises. To be in perfect rhythm harmony and sync with life so to speak. Just be without trying or practice, just effortless living, not forced or fake, just raw and real.

I don’t practice or try being an expression of life, I’m just freedom being freedom. Crying still arises, laughter still arises, rage and anger still arises, calm and collected still arises, love, hate and jealousy still arises. However, I have zero attachment to these feelings or emotions anymore, I accept they’re part of the game of human life expression. I’m no longer phased with being human. I don’t actually care one iota if I live or die, because I have come to realise I am being lived by something much greater than myself and I trust 💯 in that incredible process without any reservations or resistance or doubt.

I understand that I live on the very razors edge of creation, and that I’m just a minuscule localised dot of light within the entire cosmos having a finite existence. And that I could potentially be here today and gone tomorrow. I’ve no more knowledge than that, that’s the limit to my knowledge at this juncture. 

 

 

 

[Ramasta9]

Can a tree let go of its fruit if the fruit is not yet ripe? 

[Mellowmarsh]

15 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Can a tree let go of its fruit if the fruit is not yet ripe? 

Can a closed fist receive a gift?

[Mellowmarsh]

12 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I feel like my mind is usually my friend. 

If some thing is yours, it’s not you.

You don’t have a mind, you are the mind. You are awareness aware it’s aware, but not as a conceptual object, except in this conception, as a mentally constructed concept. It’s even a mentality constructed paradox, this mind being the many of the one, namely zero point energy.

 

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[Joseph Maynor]

3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

For me personally, it’s not necessarily a phase, or a fad so to speak, it’s more to do with the recognition of being “in phase” with life, and surrendering to it without making any grunting and grinding noises. To be in perfect rhythm harmony and sync with life so to speak. Just be without trying or practice, just effortless living, not forced or fake, just raw and real.

I don’t practice or try being an expression of life, I’m just freedom being freedom. Crying still arises, laughter still arises, rage and anger still arises, calm and collected still arises, love, hate and jealousy still arises. However, I have zero attachment to these feelings or emotions anymore, I accept they’re part of the game of human life expression. I’m no longer phased with being human. I don’t actually care one iota if I live or die, because I have come to realise I am being lived by something much greater than myself and I trust 💯 in that incredible process without any reservations or resistance or doubt.

I understand that I live on the very razors edge of creation, and that I’m just a minuscule localised dot of light within the entire cosmos having a finite existence. And that I could potentially be here today and gone tomorrow. I’ve no more knowledge than that, that’s the limit to my knowledge at this juncture. 

Interesting, so you would disagree with those who think emotions are the Absolute.

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Interesting, so you would disagree with those who think emotions are the Absolute.

I’m not sure how you are personally putting that into context. 
But for me here, there is only the Absolute.

[VeganAwake]

There isn't a "me" hanging on or letting go. There just isn't a "me" at all period.

It's a more subtle and on the surface realization.

Anything that happens is the body. The self illusion is simply the experience of "I'm doing that" / "I thought that" me me me.

There can still be attachments, body doesn't just immediately drop long-term habitual attachment like a light switch. Coffee, tea, sex, chocolate anyone 😋 

Nobody is doing the body. 

Nobody is running the show.

Nobody is witnessing.

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