The challenges when discussing metaphysical or consciousness topics online

[Carl-Richard]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Carl-Richard he is Nahm .flat out .more obvious than the sun at 12 PM.

Who

[Someone here]

@Carl-Richard Ramasta9 is Nahm.

 

 

[Carl-Richard]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Carl-Richard Ramasta9 is Nahm.

Nah, too earthly. Comparing eagles and earthworms. Emerald has a word for it: loftiness vs groundedness.

Edited 3 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Someone here]

On 01/12/2025 at 3:35 AM, Ramasta9 said:

we are vibrational beings.

@Carl-Richard I mean I would gain nothing from exposing him .I backed out when I exposed preety India the other day and deleted my comments because maybe she needs this forum for her mental health issues.  But I mean this guy is gay af he opening up a whole forum copycat of this forum and he is still obsessed about Leo till today ..if you visit his forum he is still making fun of Leo's terminology (like fake spirituality and self-deception and states of consciousness). He is basically a millionaire who arrange meetings with business men on yachts and he has billion businesses and tons of money and he got his whole practical life handled and just sits on the internet in his cushy mansion and blabbering stuff like this above .

 

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[Carl-Richard]

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

..if you visit his forum he is still making fun of Leo's terminology (like fake spirituality

I also make fun of that term.

 

7 minutes ago, Someone here said:

He is basically a millionaire who arrange meetings with business men on yachts and he has billion business and tons of money and he's basically got his whole practical life handled and just sits on the internet in his cushy mansion and blabbering stuff like this above .

Spreading consciousness in the upper eschelons of power is mighty effective, if that is what he does.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

17 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Carl-Richard Ramasta9 is Nahm.

I don't get that at all.

Weird.

[Someone here]

@Natasha Tori Maru the italic font though ?

[Ramasta9]

@Someone here Hehe, Nahm may say: "Horseshit" to that

@Carl-Richard Thanks for your exchanges. If i am being honest, I find it challenging to resonate with your comments in many different topics, and often don't know how to respond. I don't seem to feel them as much. To me, they come across as more top-down or too meta-analytic, and they can feel somewhat disembodied from the experiential side of things. 

Just sharing my experience, that I often feel this "offness" with your comments. 

[Someone here]

@Ramasta9 dude you can't play me.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

9 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

@Someone here Hehe, Nahm may say: "Horseshit" to that

He has been swinging that term around in every reply lately....

10 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Natasha Tori Maru the italic font though ?

I don't think I paid attention to that. I pick up on tone, cadence, word use. Topic's that spark the users interest. How they interact with other users. What triggers them & what they seem nonplussed by. Where they divulge information without prompting. What topics are naturally exaggerated or amplified. Overall @Ramasta9 seems WAY more grounded and in touch with being a human and the experience it entails on a more personal level. Nahm seems off in the clouds and really has no touch with reality or the experience of other humans - and that shared experience is how we typically connect.

Nahm never seems or appears as if he is trying to connect on a personal eye-to-eye level with others.

Edited 2 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Ramasta9]

14 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Carl-Richard I mean I would gain nothing from exposing him .I backed out when I exposed preety India the other day and deleted my comments because maybe she needs this forum for her mental health issues.  But I mean this guy is gay af he opening up a whole forum copycat of this forum and he is still obsessed about Leo till today ..if you visit his forum he is still making fun of Leo's terminology (like fake spirituality and self-deception and states of consciousness). He is basically a millionaire who arrange meetings with business men on yachts and he has billion businesses and tons of money and he got his whole practical life handled and just sits on the internet in his cushy mansion and blabbering stuff like this above .

 

Its such a weird but hilarious take tho, I do admire the effort. I think Leo and Nahm can both learn of one another, but honestly, I feel these days I relate with Leo more than Nahm, even though I don't always agree with their excessiveness in regrades to somethings I won't get into.

I would really be amazed if you can figure out who I am, or was. I've given many hints away already, but it doesn't really matter. 

I have little to no attachment to the past characters and plays, why I never mind creating new accounts. 

 

[Ramasta9]

@Natasha Tori Maru There's a fine few moderators i resonate with, and I feel someone like you is exactly what this forum needs. Keep it up

[Someone here]

@Natasha Tori Maru of course. He is obviously not gonna scream out "hey guys I'm Nahm ,remember me ?" If his purpose is to hide who he actually is . He has to muddy the scene and not be so obvious. If he wrote like full on Nahm tard he would be spotted in no time . But go read his posts again . He can't completely fake it either. 

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

4 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

@Natasha Tori Maru There's a fine few moderators i resonate with, and I feel someone like you is exactly what this forum needs. Keep it up

Cheers cheers - appreciate that!

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Natasha Tori Maru of course. He is obviously not gonna scream out "hey guys I'm Nahm ,remember me ?" If his purpose is to hide who he actually is . He has to muddy the scene and not be so obvious. If he wrote like full on Nahm tard he would be spotted in no time . But go read his posts again . He can't completely fake it either. 

I suppose we will never know.

Although, it is more pertinent to me that you have the pattern of accusing others of being sock-puppet accounts more than most... probabilities probabilities  

[Someone here]

15 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

hilarious

Hilarious sure . Dude wtf is "We are vibrational beings " 😂.  Go tell that to a hungry homeless man in Somalia ..he will roast you and eat you for dinner .

 

[Someone here]

28 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

don't think I paid attention to that. I pick up on tone, cadence, word use. Topic's that spark the users interest. How they interact with other users. What triggers them & what they seem nonplussed by. Where they divulge information without prompting. What topics are naturally exaggerated or amplified. Overall @Ramasta9 seems WAY more grounded and in touch with being a human and the experience it entails on a more personal level. Nahm seems off in the clouds and really has no touch with reality or the experience of other humans - and that shared experience is how we typically connect.

Nahm never seems or appears as if he is trying to connect on a personal eye-to-eye level with others.

Nahm himself has admitted that ..that he is one thing behind a keyboard and a totally different thing in real life . its a facade .using glittery spooky words online that makes him seem like he knows what he is talking about. He is basically an ontological nihilist. He believes nothing is actual  except nothing itself . Completely drunk on infinite awakening (that's an expression he himself told me about) . But yet..work is work ..you gotta pay him If you wanna book a session with him . I mean whatever..do what you want . 

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Someone here said:

Nahm himself has admitted that ..that he is one thing behind a keyboard and a totally different thing in real life . its a facade .using glittery spooky words online that makes him seem like he knows what he is talking about. He is basically an ontological nihilist. He believes nothing is actual expect nothing itself . Completely drunk on infinite awakening (that's an expression he himself told me about) . But yet..work is work ..you gotta pay him If you wanna book a session with him . I mean whatever..do what you want . 

I think Leo can attest to this also - if I am not mistaken - they have met for cordial discourse.

Forget where I happen-chanced upon this information.

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

I think Leo can attest to this also - if I am not mistaken - they have met for cordial discourse.

Forget where I happen-chanced upon this information.

Leo said he met Nahm in person .

When I asked Nahm did you meet Leo in person he told me no .

🤨

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Ramasta9 said:

@Carl-Richard Thanks for your exchanges. If i am being honest, I find it challenging to resonate with your comments in many different topics, and often don't know how to respond. I don't seem to feel them as much. To me, they come across as more top-down or too meta-analytic, and they can feel somewhat disembodied from the experiential side of things. 

Just sharing my experience, that I often feel this "offness" with your comments. 

I'm aware of this too. It's something I developed. It's academic brainrot. But I like my academic brainrot 🥲. Going from theory to conclusion is satisfying, and I believe I have collected a nice chunk that goes parallel to my experiential insights. It's just I like to express them in that realm (the theoretical), and I also think it serves a purpose.

Take somebody like Bernardo Kastrup and contrast him with Rupert Spira. They are friends, they talk to each other, but they come from completely opposite ends and yet have arrived at essentially the same conclusions. I've tried to do the same convergence inside myself; I was explicitly a fan of first Spira then Bernardo for a couple of years each. Because I had a problem I was trying to solve: saving my scientific/philosophical worldview from being devoured by my spiritual worldview. I wanted to make them consistent. So when I made them basically consistent, I started operating from the scientific view more, explaining things in the spiritual domain from that view, because I can.

And that can seem lofty and ungrounded, but know that it comes from a place of integrating the two perspectives, getting them to talk to each other, not just knowing one of them. I did not start from the top. And of course this scientific bias extends to all topics, not just pure "spiritual" topics.

Edited 2 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Natasha Tori Maru]

20 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

And that can seem lofty and ungrounded, but know that it comes from a place of integrating the two perspectives, getting them to talk to each other, not just knowing one of them. I did not start from the top. And of course this scientific bias extends to all topics, not just pure "spiritual" topics.

You do better than my hamfisted attempts at pulling spiritual & existential examples from the physical material examples of construction 🤪

Look the concrete! It cracks, loses integrity! Existential n shit! When you lie you crack and lose self/moral integrity! Just like the fucken concrete, mate. So when you lie you better rebar the shit out of yourself or your lies will fuck up you integrity and experience 🫠🫠💀