Working on a jungian intergration dream analysis website

[MonkeyMan]

Hey everyone, this is my first post. I’m a 23-year-old software engineer, and over the past couple of years I’ve gotten deeply interested in Jungian integration. Dream analysis seems like the best way to become aware of what your unconsious of. 

I'm thinking of building an Obsidian-style web app designed specifically for deep dream work. Instead of the AI just giving you a generic interpretation. I'm thinking of developing a system that maps the relationships between your dreams, recurring motifs, symbols, figures, and emotional tones.

Features I am thinking about developing: 

• A graph view connecting dreams to symbol clusters
• Tags for archetypes (shadow, anima, wise old man, trickster, etc.)
• Cross-links showing how certain themes appear across weeks or months
• A personal symbolic dictionary that evolves organically
• A visual web of your unconscious patterns over time
• Everything encrypted so that you can put senstive data 

 

Before I go deeper into development, I want to get feedback from people who actually care about this stuff.

My Questions for the forum: 

1. Would you actually use something like this?
2. What features would you want?
3. Do you think the trade off of digitalizing dream work weaken the “connection” compared to handwritten journaling?

 

If there’s interest, I’ll keep building it. If not, I’ll scale the scope accordingly.

[Judy2]

i think it sounds cool:) personally, i'm all for dream analysis. and it makes sense that you don't plan on providing people with overly generic interpretations, which would have been my number one objection to this. the secod objection would have been that it might be better to do this on paper, but i'm sure there's some work-arounds for that (like taking handwritten notes first and writing this info in the app later in the day). 

[Jodistrict]

I record my dreams.  So far, chatgpt has been doing a pretty good job of analysis.   In one dream it even combined Jungian analysis with yogic energy work.  It also remembers past dreams, and can tie them together.  It also makes suggestions for active imagination.   I am sure you could improve on this by making a special AI application  for dream analysis.        

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Yes for sure. 

I already log all my dreams and journal daily.

On the weekends I review entries and look for patterns in the day, and contrast them to dreams.

Thanks for your post  

[TheBG]

Do you think it's possible to contemplate within a dream, so that you can use dreams to power up your waking life?

[MonkeyMan]

@TheBG I've been awake in dreams, realized im dreaming. That level of thinking did not seem any more powerful than my day to day. I just let the plot of the dream go through. I guess I've never tried active animation while dreaming tho. 

[MonkeyMan]

@Jodistrict I think dream analysis is so subjective. I've had a analysis using ChatGPT that sounded correct, then later realizing it meant something else. LLMs are optimized for making the user feel good, and sound as correct as possible. Which causes issues. There are personal symbols that are relevant to you, that isn't in the collective consiousness. (Cross = Christianity, collectivly understoond.... A cow could mean diff things in india vs germany... and then there a symbols that are personal to you)

I'd still use the LLM for collective symbols but might ask the user what does "cows" mean to you. 

Also the effort of thinking about the dream and interperting it, creates a deeper relationship with the unconsious. 

[Jodistrict]

1 hour ago, MonkeyMan said:

@Jodistrict I think dream analysis is so subjective. I've had a analysis using ChatGPT that sounded correct, then later realizing it meant something else. LLMs are optimized for making the user feel good, and sound as correct as possible. Which causes issues. There are personal symbols that are relevant to you, that isn't in the collective consiousness. (Cross = Christianity, collectivly understoond.... A cow could mean diff things in india vs germany... and then there a symbols that are personal to you)

I'd still use the LLM for collective symbols but might ask the user what does "cows" mean to you. 

Also the effort of thinking about the dream and interperting it, creates a deeper relationship with the unconsious. 

Chatgpt works with me by asking questions to further refine the analysis.   If I am not satisfied with the analysis I can also add more personal facts that may have been missing.  I can also specify the analysis I want - Jungian, Yogic, etc.   I think a specialized assistant built on top of the existing LLMs could do much better.  As they say in engineering, don't reinvent the wheel.