suffering is a cosmic mistake

[Mellowmarsh]

1 hour ago, Ramasta9 said:

Cosmic "misalignment". There are no mistakes in intelligent infinity.

Surly though intelligent infinity would first have needed to KNOW the concepts “misalignment” and “mistake” before there’s any recognition that neither concept could ever exist for real?

[Ramasta9]

12 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Surly though intelligent infinity would first have needed to KNOW the concepts “misalignment” and “mistake” before there’s any recognition that neither concept could ever exist for real?

Well played

[Mellowmarsh]

1 minute ago, Ramasta9 said:

Well played

Do you mean it’s not a single player game? 😉 

[Ramasta9]

5 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Do you mean it’s not a single player game? 😉 

Its always Both, isn't it  and none...

Edited yesterday at 08:42 AM by Ramasta9

[Mellowmarsh]

49 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Its always Both, isn't it  and none...

Aye! It's♾️with an untwistable twist. 

 

 

[UnbornTao]

7 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Yes I understand that. 👍

The weight is lifted when I consider there’s just indifferent impersonal “suffering happening” compared to “I am suffering “

Awakening doesn’t necessarily mean suffering ends though. Even an awakened one can experience suffering. Anyone who is conscious of knowing is able to reflect. So although trauma grounds itself deep within the mind/body mechanism,  we can recognise that we can starve it of any more attention. Or, we can trauma bond with our own body. It doesn’t matter, it’s all just happening so there’s no need to repress or avoid, rather just allow and integrate, by surrender and to fully accept that nothing that is happening is ever personal.

To recognise fully that I’m not my thoughts or mind, I am behind, Yes, and knowing the difference certainly lightens the burden when knowing you are conscious of all your projections and therefore the only one responsible for them.

I'd agree for the most part, though it'd be tempting to use that "impersonal" bit as a way of seeing suffering as externally produced - that's a trap to watch out for, in my view. You seem to know that, though. 

A good exercise to get the hang of this principle is to deliberately produce a minor and yet specific form of mental-emotional suffering (frustration, jealousy, impatience, fear) and observe what you did in your experience that caused that disquieting result to come about.

Edited yesterday at 03:26 PM by UnbornTao