Claude AI’s argument the Great Pyramid is actually very unusual.

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Annunaki !

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

The curdled stench of conspiracy, hearsay & fantasy 

[zurew]

Aside from the fact that you exaggerated about average block size and rely on a specific time-scale to fit your narrative, it somehow makes sense to you that advanced interdimensional beings would need decades to build the pyramids.

"Okay, im gonna set up a camp ,stay here for 2-3 decades, and im gonna build the pyramids and then im gonna dip"

7 hours ago, Bashar said:

Here's the real challenge: Build even a 1/10th scale pyramid (230,000 blocks) using only Bronze Age tech - copper, sand, rope, wood - with the same precision and timeline. No one will accept this challenge because they'd fail spectacularly.

Now use the same demand and check if anyone can demonstrate to you building a pyramid 1/10th scale using the methods described in the tiktok you linked.

Show me how you move blocks at that size with sound

Edited yesterday at 07:05 AM by zurew

[zurew]

Everyone here is familiar with all the esoteric shit (including the Law of One , including channelers, and other controversial siddhi, tantric , occult stuff) , but thats not going to mean that you just default to those positions, because you dont have anwers to questions.

Edited yesterday at 10:47 AM by zurew

[Bashar]

13 hours ago, zurew said:

Aside from the fact that you exaggerated about average block size and rely on a specific time-scale to fit your narrative, it somehow makes sense to you that advanced interdimensional beings would need decades to build the pyramids.

"Okay, im gonna set up a camp ,stay here for 2-3 decades, and im gonna build the pyramids and then im gonna dip"

Now use the same demand and check if anyone can demonstrate to you building a pyramid 1/10th scale using the methods described in the tiktok you linked.

Show me how you move blocks at that size with sound

The block size is not exaggerated, and there's no reason to believe it was built in decades.

Obviously we can't replicate it right now because it's more advanced, NOT less

[zurew]

1 minute ago, Bashar said:

The block size is not exaggerated

Yes it is, the average block doesnt weigh 80 tons

[Bashar]

14 minutes ago, zurew said:

Yes it is, the average block doesnt weigh 80 tons

I never said 80, but you do NOT have an explanation for the 70-ton beams in the King's Chamber or 200+ ton casing stones. The average stone does not matter so much as the obviously exceptional ones.

[Bashar]

19 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Depends on what you mean they were.

Real as cities? Sure.

Real as in advanced hi-tech that was lost. No.

The Grahman Hancock theories are nothing more than fantasies. Zero evidence for it.

I have no problem buying that the Pyramids were built through sheer physical labor and simple clever tricks, with no fancy high tech.

Levers and pebbles is not the Occam's Razor explanation. Aliens and sorcery is the Occam's Razor explanation.

[zurew]

15 minutes ago, Bashar said:

I never said 80

20 hours ago, Bashar said:

The pyramid has 80-ton blocks, not 20-ton

[zurew]

14 minutes ago, Bashar said:

Aliens and sorcery is the Occam's Razor explanation.

1) No its not

2) You should care about more than just occam's razor when it comes to epistemic virtues.

 

Your attitude is the God of the gaps just swap God with aliens.

[Bashar]

1 minute ago, zurew said:

 

There are stones weighing 1200 tons too

You're still failing to explain any of this

[zurew]

Just now, Bashar said:

You're still failing to explain any of this

And thats fine.

You know, from lack of ability to explain aliens doesnt follow. 

What you have so far is "I dont have an explanation, therefore aliens". 

[Bashar]

1 minute ago, zurew said:

1) No its not

2) You should care about more than just occam's razor when it comes to epistemic virtues.

 

Your attitude is the God of the gaps just swap God with aliens.

We have reputable sources actually giving us the answers, like bashar and Ra. You just can't accept it as it doesn't fit your worldview. You don't have any real explanation. "Levers and cranes" isn't the answer you think it is. And you don't even know the motive for it all. A place to bury Pharaohs isn't a logical answer.

[zurew]

Your explanation is completely arbitrary.

I could say that goblins did it. 

I  could generate an infinite number of random arbitrary hypothesis that would explain the data, but none of this serious inquiry or investigation. Btw even in the tiktok that you linked even there Bashar tells you that levers and cranes is the answer for some of the pyramids.

 

Even your idea about how reputability works is so flawed that I wouldnt trust a single thing you say. Harry Potter can tell you real facts about the world, but from that doesnt follow that you should trust it on all the facts that it proposes. What reasons can you list that makes Bashar reputable on this particular matter?

Edited 17 hours ago by zurew

[Leo Gura]

Space goblins!

[zurew]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Space goblins!

I can speculate and generate better sci-fi and magic like hypotheses, this Bashar guy is too myopic.

1) The blocks are actually sentient and they carved themselves out and then flew to their designated places.

2) The whole pyramid materialized in a causeless way from nothing.

3)  Back in the day, these blocks were weightless, because gravity on Earth was completely different and any kid could just toss these blocks around.

 

If anyone believes that any of these might have issues, I will make sure to engage in endless ad-hoc reasoning, ensuring that none of these hypotheses can be falsified (like a good honest actor, who cares about generating good theories and not about infinitely defending the conclusion and the beliefs they already hold)

Edited 13 hours ago by zurew

[Carl-Richard]

Ancient alien egyptologists run into the problem of post-hoc multiple comparisons: the probability of finding a significant result is severely inflated when you throw a million spaghettis at the wall and try to see which ones stick. This tends to be adjusted for in scientific studies that use inferential statistics (e.g. Bonferroni correction).

That said, if aliens exist, and if the human brain has been basically the same for the last 200k years (and we achieved meta-cognition 30-75k years ago), that's a lot of potential. I think it's plausible that we could've been advanced at least one time before the last Ice Age, but I think the evidence is not conclusive.

Edited 12 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Natasha Tori Maru]

[Natasha Tori Maru]

On this one? Who or how the pyramids were built?

Knowing how fucked up and difficult construction can be... and the limits of materials and integrity?

I just do not know. I don't think the current explanation covers the full story. And anything I might dream up based on archaeological record is 100% hearsay, as fun as it might be   

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

And anything I might dream up based on archaeological record is 100% hearsay, as fun as it might be   

What about combining the archaeological record AND interpretation of myths? That's when you get a pasta party a'la Hancock style 💃

Edited 12 hours ago by Carl-Richard