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How will progressives and moderates get it together before it's too late?

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 I’ve heard Leo say several times that eventually at least 50% of Americans will wake up — that people will see through the lies, the tribalism, and the authoritarian slide, and that progressives and centrists will eventually fight back and regain control.

But I can’t shake this feeling that it might be too late by the time that happens.

The Left and the Democratic Party have always been far more circular and divided than the Republican Party. The Right operates like a top-down machine: disciplined, unified, and emotionally cohesive. The Left behaves more like a loose confederation of internal wars — centrists vs. progressives, idealists vs. pragmatists, activists vs. institutionalists.

It’s not that the Left lacks moral or intellectual grounding; it’s that it lacks strategic unity. Every attempt to form a broad coalition seems to implode under the weight of purity tests, ideological infighting, and a near-religious obsession with nuance.

So, my question is: What makes you think the Democratic Party and the broader Left will get it together in time for any of the most critical elections — 2026, 2028, or even beyond — before it’s too late?

Even if 50% of people “wake up,” how does that awakening translate into coordinated, effective political power? How does consciousness overcome disorganization, ego clashes, and the structural advantages the Right already holds in media, the courts, and the electoral system?

I’m not trying to be cynical — I’m genuinely looking for the mechanism that connects awakening to real-world results. Because from where I stand, awareness without unity might not be enough.

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That's the question Democratic leaders can't seem to answer. Except Mamdani. 

Mamdani is the right way to do leftist politics, and it's the method he borrowed from Bernie Sanders: 

Focus on the working class and stand up to billion donors. Promise real change and seem authentic. 

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9 minutes ago, enchanted said:

That's the question Democratic leaders can't seem to answer. Except Mamdani. 

Mamdani is the right way to do leftist politics, and it's the method he borrowed from Bernie Sanders: 

Focus on the working class and stand up to billion donors. Promise real change and seem authentic. 

Even if he does win, his campaign strategy won't work for most Democrats outside of the city. He's way too far to the left for rural Americans, suburban Americans, those in the South, and those in Middle America.

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14 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Even if he does win, his campaign strategy won't work for most Democrats outside of the city. He's way too far to the left for rural Americans, suburban Americans, those in the South, and those in Middle America.

Yes the message and specific policy would need to be tailored to the location. 

But so far no other Democrat has come up with a better plan. 

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Focus on regional issues, make a manifesto that respects each state as distinct, and highlight that you are for local people, and making these changes positive for these states in your manifesto.

Call it the 50 pledges for 50 states.

Its been demonstrated national change is heavily resisted.
So just sidestep it and when someone tries to block a local issue, go directly to the people, say this group blocked that change that you asked for, it will directly be tailored to them and effect them, and it will cost the republicans come voting time.

Stop trying to create something that doesn't exist. Moderates and Progressives will never be the same. So just give them the same goal.

You won't win all 50 but that's life. You'll at least address concerns and get them in focus.

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I think the most realistic strategy is to let each sector to do what it wants without this exhausting inner war. We won't change anyone. We need to normalize a culture of sub-states or provinces that have more authorities by their own.

Demand your group's right to do what they want and declare you won't try to change anyone else. Its like a social norm we have do develop. Then it will be easier to legalize it too.

Paradoxically unity inside the country will improve when sectors are no longer feel threatened by each other.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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