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Israel's Polarity is deeper than ever

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Thank you so much Nivsch for posting this

I am quite interested to reading about the different parties and your spiral interpretation is quite useful since you cannot find such a thing in other places

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2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Thank you so much Nivsch for posting this

I am quite interested to reading about the different parties and your spiral interpretation is quite useful since you cannot find such a thing in other places

Don’t let him mislead you. There is no coherent opposition in Israel. Netanyahu’s party still gets the most votes and the only relevant competitor is Bennett who is identical to him.

They oppose Netanyahu for domestic reasons, none care at all about what Palestinians go through and publicly denounced recognition of a Palestinian state by Europe.

Younger people in Israel are also much more to the right and more likely to support Netanyahu than older people in Israel, liberal Zionism is dying and being replaced by messianic Zionism.

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@Raze 

This isn't true Raze.

I have been following those parties closely for more than 10 years on a daily basis.

This isn't just verbal games. Those parties represent sectors whose values are fundmentally different from one another.

I know I can't convince you or anyone else to think as I think, and you really don't have to. You will always think what you think and this is perfectly fine. The only thing I can control is what I choose to share.

I want to suggest you to do your own research but consider to include direct Israeli sources and not only things you hear about Israel from filters.

Read tweets and posts written by Israelis themselves. After that, really, think whatever you want.

You are welcome to read everything I will add to here and to ask for sources you want me to add too.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Thank you so much Nivsch for posting this

I am quite interested to reading about the different parties and your spiral interpretation is quite useful since you cannot find such a thing in other places

🥰 In your time! Feel free to ask and to make claims, reservations to posts if you have and whatever you want.

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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Ultra Orthodox party: United Torah Judaism

7 mandates out of 120 = 6% of the population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Torah_Judaism

Spiral Dynamics: 🔵

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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A post from 2024, written during one of the weekly demonstrations that gathered tens of thousands of citizens every Saturday evening, calling for a hostage deal which eventually took place last week and brought the war to an end.

Everyone’s talking about division and hate — so here are a few words about solidarity, or how I can’t stop being moved by this nation:

I was among those injured in the car-ramming attack at the protest on Saturday night.
I was very lucky — I came out with bruises but no fractures. Near me on the road lay two women; one of them was bleeding from her head, moderately injured, and is still hospitalized.

From the moment this madness happened, I was surrounded by a large group of strangers and volunteers.
They insisted on accompanying me to the hospital (Tamar and Yotam, two wonderful people whose last names I don’t even know, stayed with me there until the late hours). In the photo — Dafna Greener, from the volunteer network.

It turns out there’s a volunteer system of social workers, psychologists, and doctors who accompany every injured person at a protest. Dafna didn’t leave my side for a moment — she made sure I drank and ate, talked with me about what had happened with a smile, and above all, was there for me.

She left her family and refused my pleas to go back home: “I’m here with you,” she said. When I took a taxi at two in the morning, we said goodbye.

So yes — from this sad evening, I come out stronger.
With people like this, we’ll recover and overcome.
Hope is 2000 years old — a few more months are nothing for her. 🇮🇱❤️
#Hope "

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1EuEU5LAgZ/

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🏔 Spiral dynamics can be limited, or it can be unlimited if one's development is constantly reflected in its interpretation.

 

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