to become enlightenment is to die spiritually

[Caoimhin]

I don't mean that they have died to themselves and broke free... I mean they have lost their eternal souls and are dead spiritually... What is the difference externally. We see people who temporarily escaped suffering or are just numb to it... Someone like Frank Yang you can see as a borderline demon possessed guy now totally mellowed out... did he gain peace or rather completely lose his soul ? Is he "enlightened" or just totally dead inside...

Is enlightenment spiritual suicide? Is it worth gaining peace now in exchange for your eternal soul being lost?

I used to want enlightenment and did all the meditation and psychedelics, however, I've since converted to Catholicism and studying theology now it doesn't seem like a good trade off... to gain the world but lose my soul. I'd rather suffer this life for Christ's sake then give up my soul for a few decades of peace here. Imagine that we are tormented by demons and that they just want to kill you, so you give them your soul to stop the torment. Like a last meal on death row, they may just let up because they already have your soul... who even knows, they might remove your soul from the body and possess it for you. Many times meditating towards enlightenment the sensation of dying or the experience of dying have been profound, but now it's a bit disturbing that if it wasn't for last minute resistance and the grace of God, I could have given up my soul... Regardless of your spiritual views, consider this. Is enlightenment worth losing your eternal soul?   

May the peace of Christ be with you. God bless.

[Hojo]

Your soul is in another dimension, You cant give it up. If you give up your soul you would stop experiencing reality. Your soul has gone through this game before many times. Simply sitting there wont give it up you are ran by religious fear.

I saw my soul while awakening. It was just a translucent square with a smiley face on it. It wasnt scared of anything. The soul is like Gods super avatar thats more impressive than God itself.God is impressed by the intelligence of the soul. 

Catholicism is the fear religion. You being scared of everything is a byproduct of you joining that religion. Maybe your soul is retarded.

You arent scared of the devil you are scared of God and you are scared God is going to punish you for a mistake or no reason.

Edited October 3 by Hojo

[Aaron p]

I'd say enlighment is egoic suicide, it's impossible to die spiritually. If your going into religion you need to guard yourself from all these ideas and concepts like demons. Think of it more like energy. While you can't die spiritually, as spirit is itself truth and life, you can obfuscate it and religion does this. 

Religion = lifelessness.

Mysticism + God = Eternal purpose and escatcy.