Arthogaan

Suffering because God is so Loving or so Self-Deceiving - BDSM vs Daydreaming

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Ultimately these are just aspects of The Mind that are simultaneous - but just for fun of contemplation - there seem to be two stories happening.

God is so unconditionally loving that he allows even the worst of sufferings to occur. He is so unbiased that he can love even that. There is some aspect of eros/bdsm when you think of God willing into existence the suffering and loving it.

But also there is an aspect of God as ultimate deceiver. Kind of like when we are just lying on the back and daydreaming, and even though we can literally think of heaven and paradise often in our imaginations we go to some scary places. We imagine suffering of others, children in Gaza/Africa. So we literally create a universe in our mind full of suffering when we could only have been thinking good thoughts instead. Is there an aspect of God being lost in daydreaming?

@Leo Gura How do you reconcile these two? How can god be at the same time Infinitely Inteligent and Good and yet actively imagine world of suffering. Whenever I am more conscious and inteligent I tend to have less negative daydreaming and more positive daydreaming. Is God more BDSM lover (as well as Lover of anything else obviously) or is he lost in his own mind. Is he so inteligent and powerful that he imagines with such intensity that he get's lost in his own daydreamings?


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But why are you talking as though God is some separate creature sitting up there who knows where doing stuff ?


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

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Just using conventional language to communicate. Feel free to exchange God with "You" or Awareness or whatever.


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@Arthogaan I understand .what I meant is these kinds of questions don't usually have an end game . Because your notion of God is too loaded with anthropomorphizing God. 

Make up your mind Whether God is conscious agent who does things with intention and free will or just unbiased impersonal inevitable infinite flow of everything that is possible. 

Much love brother .deep inquiry. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Make up your mind Whether God is conscious agent who does things with intention and free will or just unbiased impersonal inevitable infinite flow of everything that is possible. 

Well yes, that is kind of the crux of the matter. Because it is all of those. It is Impersonal Flow and yet also intimately loving and wanting to experience full of eros. So there are aspects/facets. And some of them are higher/purer. Like God is also unconsciouss materialist or christian fundamentalist. The Deceiver. The Lover. The Emptiness. The Truth. Etc. And I kind of wonder whether he is more of a Lover/BDSMer or a Self-Deceiver lost in it's own thoughts. 

Or rather I want to understand the mechanichs of how those different archetypes flow/relate. I don't know. It is a hard question to even articulate lol.

Much love to you too :x


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17 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

Well yes, that is kind of the crux of the matter. Because it is all of those. It is Impersonal Flow and yet also intimately loving and wanting to experience full of eros. So there are aspects/facets. And some of them are higher/purer. Like God is also unconsciouss materialist or christian fundamentalist. The Deceiver. The Lover. The Emptiness. The Truth. Etc. And I kind of wonder whether he is more of a Lover/BDSMer or a Self-Deceiver lost in it's own thoughts. 

Or rather I want to understand the mechanichs of how those different archetypes flow/relate. I don't know. It is a hard question to even articulate lol.

Much love to you too :x

 Thanks .I get it . Deep question. I have no answer I'll leave that one to people more experienced than me .

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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