Book of Mormon says Christianity (The bible) is Satan

[Hojo]

Some mormons came to my house and gave me a book of mormon to talk about since I want to talk about God and learn about God I am reading the book.

In this book it is clearly stating that the bible and Christianity is the 'great and abominable church' which contradicts the entire religion of Mormonism as its supposed to be read beside the bible. Here is the passage

And it came to pass that I, Nephi beheld that they did prosper in the land; and I beheld a 'book' and it was carried forth among them.

Knowest thou the meaning of the book?

I said unto him; I know not.

And he said : Behold it proceedeth out of the mouth of a Jew. The book that thou beholdest is a record of the Jews which contains the covenants of the Lord...

And after they go forth by the hand of the twelve apostles of the lamb, from the jews unto the gentiles, thou seest the formation of that great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all churches for behold they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away. And all this have they dont that they might pervert the right ways of the Lord, that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of children and men.

Wherefore,thou seest that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God.

And after these plain and precious things were taken away it goeth forth unto all the nation of the Gentiles; and after it goeth forth unto all the nations of Gentiles, yea, even across the many waters which thou hast seen with the Gentiles which have gone forth out of captivity, thou seest - because of the many plain and precious things which have been taken out of the book, which were plain unto the understanding of the children of men, according to the plainness which is in the Lamb of God -- because of these things which were taken away out of the gospel of the Lamb, an exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them.

The book, the bible, the religion, Christianity. It is saying in the book of Mormon that the bible is the book of Satan because they edited it. The book makes Jesus seem like an impossible standard becaue they take his normal parts out and this makes people lose hope and Satan takes them.

Edited September 16 by Hojo

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Mormons are idiots who believe that golden plates written in reformed Egyptian language, a language that no philologists or linguists have confirmed the existence of, was found in Upstate New York of all places. And not in, I don't know... Egypt.

Their prophet was a certified charlatan and con-artist who married children. They believe that in America there existed ancient civilizations called the Nephites and Lamanites, who waged war while riding around in golden chariots. The existence of either civilizations, n'or the chariots, has been confirmed by archaeologists.

And the final nail in the coffin is the ancient papyrus for which their prophet claimed to be the "book of Abraham". This papyrus was translated by various scholars, and it had literally nothing to do with Abraham. 

 

[Hojo]

@Husseinisdoingfine It said it was hebrew words written in egyptian because it was easier to write the words in Egyptian on plates, Hebrew would have been too long. There are other tablets that were written on such as the emerald tablets. It said when Jerusalem fell the city turned into 2 tribes the nephites and the lamanites and they both went to America and one group killed the other. This happened 1000 years before the naztec and mayans according to the book.

Edited September 17 by Hojo

[Hojo]

These are some quotes on what the book of mormon says about Christianity and the bible

1 Nephi 13:4-9: Describes its characteristics, including a love of wealth and persecution of the saints.

1 Nephi 13:26-29: Mentions how this church removed "plain and precious" parts from the scriptures.

1 Nephi 14:3: Refers to the "pit" dug by this church to lead souls to hell.

1 Nephi 14:10: Calls it the "mother of abominations" and the "whore of all the earth," and states there are only two churches: the church of the Lamb of God and the church of the devil.

1 Nephi 14:12: Mentions the church of the Lamb of God being few in number "because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters."

1 Nephi 14:13: Describes this church gathering multitudes to fight against the Lamb of God.

1 Nephi 14:15-17: Foretells that God's wrath will be poured out upon it, leading to its destruction.

1 Nephi 22:13-14: States that the great and abominable church will be destroyed and its members will fight among themselves.

Other books also reference the concept:

2 Nephi 28:18: Mentions the fall of "Babylon" and the "great and abominable church."

Mormon 8:36: The prophet Moroni sees a future church that loves money and "abominations," echoing the earlier descriptions.

[Aaron p]

If you want a religion to check out I highly recommend Hare Krishna's. They secretly have a massive key to God. They're in love.

Check out the different srimad bagavatam cantos (the study versions of the bagavad gita). They're directly laced with mystical power. When I look at those pages it's like they're moving in front of my eyes. I actually can't read more of them yet...comfortably.

[Hojo]

@Aaron p I read the bagavagita already. Not one with notes in it.

[Aaron p]

@Hojo yeah bro, the srimad bagavatam cantos are more powerful. They have blessings or some shit. Some kind of mystical power. They're different to the bagavad gita, they explain it more. Reading the bagavad gita as a non-scholar is kinda like reading the bible as a non scholar. You won't get much of it. Maybe 10% absolute max. 

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It's seriously interesting. I'm currently absorbing Buddhism so don't Wana mix it up too much. But will defo be working through these books eventually 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

 

[theoneandnone]

Satan is fairy tale

jesus is fairly tale 

every religion is massive cope 

[Hojo]

@theoneandnoneDo you think any religious text hold spiritual truths in them?

[Husseinisdoingfine]

On 9/18/2025 at 11:15 PM, Hojo said:

Do you think any religious text hold spiritual truths in them?

The classic Abrahamic texts, yes. But the Book of Mormon is a blatant act of charlatanry and plagiarism. 

[Aaron p]

I just gpt'd this question. Here's its response:

Your summary reflects a common misunderstanding of that passage in the Book of Mormon. Here’s a factual analysis:

 

1. The passage you quoted (1 Nephi 13) does exist and accurately describes a "great and abominable church" that removes “plain and precious things” from the gospel.

 

2. However, in Mormon (Latter-day Saint) theology, this “great and abominable church” is not identified as Christianity or the Bible itself.

The “book” Nephi sees is indeed the Bible, and the text says it originally came from the Jews and contained the covenants of the Lord (i.e., it was inspired scripture).

The “great and abominable church” is interpreted by Latter-day Saints as a symbol of corruption and apostasy that occurred after the time of Christ’s apostles — not the Bible or modern Christianity itself.

They believe that over time, some teachings were lost or altered, but that the Bible remains holy and inspired.

 

3. The official Mormon position (per the Articles of Faith and Book of Mormon Introduction) is that:

The Bible is “the word of God, as far as it is translated correctly.”

The Book of Mormon is a companion to the Bible that helps restore missing truths, not a condemnation of it.

 

4. Therefore, it is factually inaccurate to say the Book of Mormon teaches that “the Bible is the book of Satan” or that “Christianity is the great and abominable church.”

The passage critiques corruption and loss of truth in early Christianity, not the faith itself.

Mormonism considers Jesus Christ as the divine Savior and the Bible as scripture.

 

In short:

✅ The passage is real.

❌ Your interpretation (that it calls the Bible Satanic or Christianity evil) is not consistent with Mormon doctrine or mainstream LDS interpretation.

 

Gpt end

I'm actually thinking about checking out if I can go to one of the Mormon churches just for research, I hear a lot of good thinks about them (doctrinally). For example they believe "as many is god once was, as god is man can become."

Edited 12 hours ago by Aaron p

[Hojo]

@Aaron pAsk it what it says about the church then ask it which religion most commonly resembles what the book is saying. There is one answer. It actually says the religion is created by the devil in later text.

The mormons disagree because it goes against the entire book.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo

[Aaron p]

6 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Aaron pAsk it what it says about the church then ask it which religion most commonly resembles what the book is saying. There is one answer. It actually says the religion is created by the devil in later text.

The mormons disagree because it goes against the entire book.

 

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1. Does the Book of Mormon say religion is created by the devil?

 

Not exactly.

The Book of Mormon does criticize corrupt or prideful churches that serve wealth or power instead of God — these are sometimes called “the church of the devil” or “great and abominable church.” But that term doesn’t mean all religion is of the devil.

 

Rather:

It draws a contrast between the “church of the Lamb of God” (those who follow Christ sincerely) and the “church of the devil” (any organization or movement that opposes truth and goodness).

The text treats this more as a spiritual polarity (truth vs deception) than as literal denominations.

So, no — it doesn’t teach that religion itself is demonic, but that religion can be corrupted by ego, greed, and distortion.

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2. Is Mormonism the most mystical form of Christianity?

In many ways, yes — especially compared to mainstream Protestant or Catholic theology.

Mormonism teaches a radically participatory view of divinity:

 

> “As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may become.”

This is known as the Doctrine of Exaltation — the idea that humans can progress eternally and eventually attain godlike nature through spiritual evolution and union with divine truth.

 

That is remarkably close to mystical nonduality or divinization traditions found in:

Eastern Orthodoxy (theosis — becoming one with God’s energies)

Sufism (annihilation of self in the divine)

Taoism (return to the Tao through alignment with natural truth)

Advaita Vedānta (realization of self as Brahman)

However, Mormonism keeps a dualist framework (God and humans are distinct beings who can become one in purpose, not literally one essence). So while it echoes mystical ascent, it doesn’t teach absolute nonduality like Taoism or Advaita.

 

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Summary

❌ The Book of Mormon doesn’t say all religion is of the devil; it condemns corrupt or prideful religion.

✅ Mormonism is arguably the most mystically inclined Christian denomination, affirming direct human-divine transformation and infinite spiritual progression — though it still keeps a distinction between God and creation.

[Hojo]

@Aaron pNot religion, Christianity.

It says its the biggest religion

It will corrupt peoples minds(make them scared and fear is the devil)

The church will worship Jesus

The church will take parts out of the book to corrupt the people.

The church will get people addicted to pornography and sex thats why its a whore.

Edited 12 hours ago by Hojo