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Pretend you are a young adult you are in love with someone and with them for a long time. Something happens you break up you cannot come to terms with it. You reject reality and ball up the emotion. You have dreams about the person and 10 years later you are still thinking about them from time to time. A thought comes into your mind of the heartbreak you see that there is a version of yourself that is grieving still in your mind this version of yourself is still going through those moments in life. You from your present version of yourself can fix this via logic and language. You can heal the wound of a past version of yourself from the present moment and the thought wont exist anymore. 

Now there is a version of you in the future that exists right now and you are in the present as a thought in the mind of the future version of yourself that your future self hasn't figured out how to stop yet. When it does your current existence will change into the next irritations of thoughts that your future self will solve. You cant move onto the future self until you heal the past cause you are your future healing the past right now.

Now picture there is a dead version of yourself in your farthest future that is sitting there right now in between all these thoughts and you see it when you sleep and close your eyes.

Every thought in your head is like a past or future self talking in the head of a dead thing.

 

Logically you should be able to enter heaven by just thinking the thought I am in heaven right now. The thought isn't being created by you its a future self thats in heaven saying follow me. You dont have free will to create thoughts and aren't in control of them. But you do get the choice to follow them.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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14 hours ago, Hojo said:

Pretend you are a young adult you are in love with someone and with them for a long time. Something happens you break up you cannot come to terms with it. You reject reality and ball up the emotion. You have dreams about the person and 10 years later you are still thinking about them from time to time. A thought comes into your mind of the heartbreak you see that there is a version of yourself that is grieving still in your mind this version of yourself is still going through those moments in life. You from your present version of yourself can fix this via logic and language. You can heal the wound of a past version of yourself from the present moment and the thought wont exist anymore. 

Now there is a version of you in the future that exists right now and you are in the present as a thought in the mind of the future version of yourself that your future self hasn't figured out how to stop yet. When it does your current existence will change into the next irritations of thoughts that your future self will solve. You cant move onto the future self until you heal the past cause you are your future healing the past right now.

Now picture there is a dead version of yourself in your farthest future that is sitting there right now in between all these thoughts and you see it when you sleep and close your eyes.

Every thought in your head is like a past or future self talking in the head of a dead thing.

 

Logically you should be able to enter heaven by just thinking the thought I am in heaven right now. The thought isn't being created by you its a future self thats in heaven saying follow me. You dont have free will to create thoughts and aren't in control of them. But you do get the choice to follow them.

Actually, not forcing the thinking. Letting the mind chattering connects with body which only takes place when it is necessary. And You rest as always.


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@James123You cant force it the thought itsnt coming from you its coming from your higher self you cant force a thought. If you say I am going to think about being in heaven then say in your mind I am in heaven you arent saying it or forcing it your future self is telling you from its current state of mind. You dont have control to think it. You can pretend you are doing it or you can pretend your higher self is forcing it. You can easily structure it as if your higher self is forcing it into you so you follow it.

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@James123You cant force it the thought itsnt coming from you its coming from your higher self you cant force a thought. If you say I am going to think about being in heaven then say in your mind I am in heaven you arent saying it or forcing it your future self is telling you from its current state of mind. You dont have control to think it. You can pretend you are doing it or you can pretend your higher self is forcing it. You can easily structure it as if your higher self is forcing it into you so you follow it.

There is no higher self nor lower self.

Attachment to thinking as I is so called ego.

When the thoughts arises and falls within, it is Truth.


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@James123Then what are thoughts about traumas of the past. Why go to therapy to quite your mind and come to terms?

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@James123Then what are thoughts about traumas of the past. Why go to therapy to quite your mind and come to terms?

Actually, That's the thoughts about past as imagining past, meanwhile all thoughts arises and falls in now.

I don't know why people go, maybe to heal? 


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@James123Heal what? A past version of themselves that still exists in their psyche right now?

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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17 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@James123Heal what? A past version of themselves that still exists in their psyche right now?

Oh sorry, I thought you were asking me why do they do that.

They just believe there is a past and within that past suffering happened. Meanwhile it is just a thought attachment that arises in now. Therefore, past, pain and person imagined within the thought.


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@James123 Where did it come from? Was it just implanted in their mind?


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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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21 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@James123 Where did it come from? Was it just implanted in their mind?

It is actually crazy.

When one analyze the thoughts, the origin is something like emptiness or nameless. Because, giving any name arises within it.

And when one looks closely thoughts are empty, there is nothing there. Therefore, even one or looker and looked vanishes too.


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49 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@James123 Where did it come from? Was it just implanted in their mind?

It's abstractions and interpretations by the energy that feels itself to be. Everything now is personal. It arises within that energy. If that energy doesn't sense someone there having a past a present and a future then trauma is just trauma just like the sun is just the sun. The sun isn't seen as something happening to someone because feelings and emotions isn't being related to when experiencing the sun. 

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@Princess Arabia if you touched the sun the burned your hand and then the next day reached out and flinched as a memory comes forth that you will get burned you are saying that energy isn't a past version of you that was traumatized at getting burnt by the sun its a completely random expression coming from nowhere? I don't beleive that. Its clearly linked to the body.@James123


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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia if you touched the sun the burned your hand and then the next day reached out and flinched as a memory comes forth that you will get burned you are saying that energy isn't a past version of you that was traumatized at getting burnt by the sun its a completely random expression coming from nowhere? I don't beleive that. Its clearly linked to the body.@James123

I am sorry to give this example so often,

But just go in front of the mirror and think over and over again.

What do you see in your head?


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1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia if you touched the sun the burned your hand and then the next day reached out and flinched as a memory comes forth that you will get burned you are saying that energy isn't a past version of you that was traumatized at getting burnt by the sun its a completely random expression coming from nowhere? I don't beleive that. Its clearly linked to the body.@James123

I'm saying as long as there is an emotional reaction to something then it's capable of feeling like the source of the trauma. Everything is just everything with no baggage around it until the person relates to it and personalize it. The sun can also cause sun burn and whatever else and creates trauma for the individual but I wasn't using the sun as an example in this case even though it can be the source of someone's trauma if seen and related to on an emotional level. Anything can. Nothing in of itself causes trauma. The individual that senses and abstracts does. It's how the person relates to the seeming object that makes the difference. One can get raped and not be traumatized by it and another traumatized. The rape didn't traumatize. The relationship the person had with the rape did. Goes for every single incident.

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What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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