Exposing Sadhguru’s Cult: The Mind Manipulations No One Talks About

[Hojo]

 

[Ishanga]

Everything in this world is a cult, this place is a cult, work and companies/corps are cults, schools and all organizations are cults, its just that some are not so healthy for us and some are, its this way for everything, its up to YOU to decide how it affects You..

Once You try to do something whether it is big or small, you'll create enemies... I've been involved with Martial Arts since 1988, my first instructor/Sifu I idolized him, studied every move he made, I eventually taught for him, met his parents, got into the inner circle, got to know the real person, deep down he's a good guy, but he had to do things to make things work, which cost me plenty.. I'm not long involved with him, but I don't regret my time with him, I learned allot (what to do and not do), the almost samething happened with my next instructor or coach, so these things happen, I don't have malice against any of them, or Sadhguru, he's doing what he has to do for his own reasons and motivations.

Anyone can say anything, produce any sort of video and publicize it, Sadhguru will still go on doing his thing, he doesn't care, and more ppl will follow him, for sure some of them go overboard and worship him, from what I know he does not want this, he's stated many times he wants Undercover Yogi's, ppl out in the society living the life of a Yogi on the inside while performing normal everyday activities and family life... but he has a business to run, money has to come in to support Isha's activities, that is simply the way it is in the world if You want to do Big Things... Love him or Leave Him, no one cares really!

[Razard86]

Everything is not a cult, but every organization that is constructed is cult-like which means it has some functions that mirror a cult. First this needs to be said, Sadhguru has never said that his path is for everyone and he has never said that he alone is the true path of Spirituality. He has stated that he is a guide. Many of the complaints that I am hearing from this video is really about the people surrounding Sadhguru and how they are blind followers. This is normal!!! If you study any Guru of any renown the majority of their followers DO NOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES. Even after being told by said Guru to think for themselves they STILL DO NOT think for themselves!!!

Many Spiritual Practitioners struggle to be fully engaged in their spiritual practices and usually are following the Guru because they are drawn to the Guru's charisma. As such they seek to emulate the Guru because they admire the authority they wield and some of them even seek to usurp the Guru as well. As such they corrupt the surrounding organization. For example if you study what happened with Osho, Osho never erected himself as better than his followers, they erected him on a pedestal (unfortunately he did take advantage of this erection in certain ways but he never led them against their will) and this happens too much.

The biggest problem with Spirituality is it attracts people with low self-worth the same way that Religion does and they start making an idol out of the Guru. The amount of delusion you have to be in, to truly believe that a Guru has more self-worth than you is unimaginable to me but I realize that when a person does not pursue whole-heartedly creating within their own life their own unique expression it can lead to problems with self-worth and the pedestalization of those around them. One of the points of life is to discover your own inner amazingness, what makes you so amazing. 

We may need Spirituality to change in certain ways to pushing aspirants and seekers to focus on being a creator so they can realize their own merit and self value. Perhaps it will probably go in this direction in the future.

[ExploringReality]

@Razard86

Absolutely bro 🔥 your on fire, thanks for your input 

[Salariatu]

Well, its true, that guru promotes a cult but actualized.org also, but in a more mainstream manner and scientific approach. Because a cult is something you cannot prove. Per example the concepts of reality, you can't prove them as we know it from society, are just theories and speculation. The good thing is, we have sites like this to debate, but more than that is just speculation. 

[Hojo]

@SalariatuThe video is saying he is doing it on a manipulative level, intelligently. Ie, making up unanswerable questions leaving the viewer with a vague or no explanation execpt for what they make up in their own mind and then label that idea as Sadhgurus. He tells the viewer to do and take certain things with no explanation as why and becomes like a parental figure in your subconscious mind. Hes like do these things but dont listen to me in a trick way. He knows how the human brain works 100 percent he would be a manipulation master. 

The video is saying he is manipulating people with words maliciously. Leo dosent do this besides making fun of stoners. Its saying sadhguru is using his words to make people follow him via intelligent use of intellect and given authority.

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[Salariatu]

5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@SalariatuThe video is saying he is doing it on a manipulative level. Ie, making up unanswerable questions leaving the viewer with a vague or no explanation execpt for what they make up in their own mind and then label that idea as Sadhgurus. He tells the viewer to do and take certain things with no explanation as why and becomes like a parental figure in your subconscious mind. Hes like do these things but dont listen to me in a trick way. He knows how the human brain works 100 percent he would be a manipulation master. 

The video is saying he is manipulating people with words maliciously. Leo dosent do this besides making fun of stoners. Its saying sadhguru is using his words to make people follow him via intelligent use of intellect and given authority.

Every person who are in the public view, Sandguru or Leo, in the end they do too much for others and they get caught in doing the right thing. Sandhguru is more delusional, Leo is less. 

 

Why i'm saying this? Because having the certainty on how reality works or the mind is a delusion on itself, nobody knows how it works. You are just being, cannot be explained. 

[Hojo]

@SalariatuYou can know exactly how the human mind works it works literally like a computer. You can learn how your computer works and manipulate people because it would work on you. We are all working with the same machinery. Our egos are developed the same way. What you think a human is is just an algorithm.

He knows the only way you need to develop power over someone is make them react to a word you say. Thats high level.

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[Salariatu]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@SalariatuYou can know exactly how the human mind works it works literally like a computer. You can learn how your computer works and manipulate people because it would work on you. We are all working with the same machinery. Our egos are developed the same way. What you think a human is is just an algorithm.

He knows the only way you need to develop power over someone is make them react to a word you say. Thats high level.

It can only be known only the indoctrination of society, is based in reverse, what i mean is that society uses phychology to build an ego in people in a certain way, so those patterns can be known, what we call the ego mind. But, when you escape society's indoctrination, you will not know, nobody knows how the mind works outside of society's rules. Once someone awakens, you can know a little, some basic things, a system to use and live by it or a code, but the details, you don't know them. If you think you know, you are delusional, you did not awaken. 

[Hojo]

@SalariatuThats bullshit anyone can awaken and still be trapped. Just because you awaken dosent mean you instantly get information on how to manipulate and how not to be manipulated.

Someone who was born in forest with no societal indoctrination would be trapped and slaved 1000 times easier than someone who was born in society. You could literally just sprinkle some food on the ground and then put a cage around them.

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[Salariatu]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@SalariatuThats bullshit anyone can awaken and still be trapped. Just because you awaken dosent mean you instantly get information on how to manipulate and how not to be manipulated.

Did i mention that you can know something? I didn't.

[Hojo]

@SalariatuThen you cant make logical conclusions that you are making and you also cannot have an opinion.

[Salariatu]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@SalariatuThen you cant make logical conclusions that you are making and you also cannot have an opinion.

Yes i can have an opinion, are you having a hard time? That you respond as to an enemy?

[Hojo]

@SalariatuIm not responding as your enemy you are saying you cant know something. Then you cant know what any word means, and cant know that you exist, and cant know how to speak or type or use a computer. Definitely cant know that you have an opinion because you cant know anything. You are talking to me by pretending to know something and then saying you cant know anything as a slamdunk. I am saying you are doing the same thing, while saying I cannot do it.

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[Salariatu]

Just now, Hojo said:

@SalariatuIm not responding as your enemy you are saying you cant know something. Then you cant know what any word means, and cant know that you exist, and cant know how to speak or type or use a computer. Definitely cant know that you have an opinion because you cant know anything. You are talking to me by pretending to know something and then saying you cant know anything as a slamdunk.

I only told you that you don't know how reality works and nobody can know, is just being

[Hojo]

@Salariatu Well we were originally talking about how a human mind works and you changed it to reality for some reason. You can definetly know how to manipulate people with words on high levels.

[Salariatu]

7 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Salariatu Well we were originally talking about how a human mind works and you changed it to reality for some reason. You can definetly know how to manipulate people with words on high levels.

Don't put the blame on me, i just responded to the main post of the thread. More specifically, the title of the thread. 

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[Hojo]

@Salariatu What could I possibly be blaming you for? I am not blaming anyone or anything.

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[Salariatu]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@Salariatu What could I possibly be blaming you for? I am not blaming anyone or anything.

Yeah sure, good morning. take care. 

[Hojo]

@SalariatuI dunno what you talking about man. The title says mind manipulations and you responded with reality.

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