All Prophets and Enlightened Masters Point to the One Truth

[James123]

Prophet Muhammad (Qur’an)

“There is no god but Allah.” (47:19)

“Die before you die.”

— The ego-self must dissolve; only the One remains.

Moses

“Ehyeh asher ehyeh — I Am That I Am.” (Exodus 3:14)

— The true “I” is not the ego, but Being itself.

Jesus

“I and the Father are one.” (John 10:30)

“Whoever loses his self for my sake shall find it.” (Matthew 16:25)

— Losing ego reveals the true Self.

Rumi

“I searched for God and found myself.

I searched for myself and found God.”

— Ego hides, but when it dies, only Love remains.

Ramana Maharshi

“The ego is only a thought. Stop attending to it and it will vanish.”

“You are Awareness. Awareness is another name for You.”

— Ego disappears, the Self alone shines.

Papaji

“Keep quiet. In silence, there is no separation between you and God.”

— Ego dissolves in silence.

Krishnamurti

“Truth is a pathless land.”

— Ego is always seeking. Truth is seen only when the seeker is not.

Osho

“Be — don’t try to become.”

— Ego is always trying to “become.” In Being, ego has no ground.

Buddha

“All phenomena are without self (anatta).” (Dhammapada)

“In seeing, there is only the seen; no seer apart.”

"There is nothing but Allah.”

Muhammad: “La ilaha illa Allah” — There is no god but Allah.

Moses: “I Am That I Am.”

Jesus: “I and the Father are one.”

Rumi: “I searched for God and found myself.”

Ramana: “You are Awareness.”

Buddha: “All is without self.”

Krishnamurti: “Truth is a pathless land.”

Osho: “Be — don’t try to become.”

Papaji: “In silence, there is no separation.”

Different words, different melodies, but the same song.

All dissolve the ego, and what remains is the One / Being without a second.

Best Regards,

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[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

Buddha: “All is without self.”

Then maybe you could say that all is self, or that all is direct, without a creator 

2 hours ago, James123 said:

You are Awareness. Awareness is another name for You

Awareness of that? Maybe he means "being". Different ways to express something that probably points to the same truth 

You cannot seek silence, but silence is created when the light of being shines. Being is everything; it is complete and total. Its quality is that it stands out and is full. But beyond this, it can be understood with the mind, since the mind is a manifestation of being.

The mind is being in a form. The mind clears itself to dissipate the fog that clouds the glory of being, immutable in its essence, changing in its form. Then the mind, as a manifestation of being, can understand itself

 

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[James123]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Then maybe you could say that all is self, or that all is direct, without a creator 

What I mean is "self" is ego. Self (capital S) is Being.

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Awareness of that? Maybe he means "being". Different ways to express something that probably points to the same truth 

You cannot seek silence, but silence is created when the light of being shines. Being is everything; it is complete and total. Its quality is that it stands out and is full.

Definitely 💯 

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

But beyond this, it can be understood with the mind, since the mind is a manifestation of being.

The mind is being in a form. The mind clears itself to dissipate the fog that clouds the glory of being, immutable in its essence, changing in its form. Then the mind, as a manifestation of being, can understand itself

 

No, mind belongs to ego. For Being, self is just a thought.

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[Breakingthewall]

12 minutes ago, James123 said:

No, mind belongs to ego. For Being, self is just a thought.

Well, everything is a manifestation of the absolute, then the ego or the conceptual mind must be so, can't be something separate. 

The point is that the mind can operate in a confused or an alienated way, or aligned. What sense does it make to the idea that reality is perfect or true except for the mind, which is false?

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[James123]

11 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Well, everything is a manifestation of the absolute, then the ego or the conceptual mind must be so, can't be something separate. 

The point is that the mind can operate in a confused or an alienated way, or aligned. What sense does it make to the idea that reality is perfect or true except for the mind, which is false?

The attachment to mind or ego is division. It arises within Being, yet it is not separate from it. As awareness deepens, the mind dissolves, revealing the indivisible whole.

[Breakingthewall]

25 minutes ago, James123 said:

The attachment to mind or ego is division. It arises within Being, yet it is not separate from it. As awareness deepens, the mind dissolves, revealing the indivisible whole.

So now you have no mind? Then how did you write this paragraph?

[James123]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

So now you have no mind? Then how did you write this paragraph?

"i" or "me" is the mind itself.

I just write without thinking.

[Breakingthewall]

59 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

 

34 minutes ago, James123 said:

"i" or "me" is the mind itself.

I just write without thinking.

It's interesting to interact in this forum because if you are bit insightful you realize that spirituality is mostly narcissism. Narcissism means that you put first your emotional stability and then the truth, so you can adapt the reality to your psychological needs in a very deep level, and you can believe it. That's why communication is so difficult, you could see the thread that I started as "anti human spirituality". People there entered to say literally nothing but very angry. If you ask them: well, expose your points. They evade and say anything else and try to belittle you. Same here. Then you write this without thinking, but if anyone else write anything is from the ego mind. 

So the difference between ego or truth is that truth comes from you and ego from others. Ok.

 

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

 

It's interesting to interact in this forum because if you are bit insightful you realize that spirituality is mostly narcissism. Narcissism means that you put first your emotional stability and then the truth, so you can adapt the reality to your psychological needs in a very deep level, and you can believe it. That's why communication is so difficult, you could see the thread that I started as "anti human spirituality". People there entered to say literally nothing but very angry. If you ask them: well, expose your points. They evade and say anything else and try to belittle you. Same here. Then you write this without thinking, but if anyone else write anything is from the ego mind. 

So the difference between ego or truth is that truth comes from you and ego from others. Ok.

 

No. All, I am just saying that attachment with mind is the ego. 

Just trying to help my brother.

That's all.

Moreover not "me or james". Which is the biggest enemy / prison.

 

[Breakingthewall]

40 minutes ago, James123 said:

Just trying to help my brother

Not exact, if you were trying to help me, you would enter the conversation as an equal, trying to understand my points and qualify them, not dismissing them as "mind" and distorting the conversation by shifting paradigms in every post to hover above. It's more of a narcissistic competition where the only goal is to win.

 

[James123]

30 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Not exact, if you were trying to help me, you would enter the conversation as an equal, trying to understand my points and qualify them, not dismissing them as "mind" and distorting the conversation by shifting paradigms in every post to hover above. It's more of a narcissistic competition where the only goal is to win.

 

No. Because, Mind is not the answer.

Helping is not agreeing, it is telling what is Truth.

[Breakingthewall]

28 minutes ago, James123 said:

No. Because, Mind is not the answer.

Helping is not agreeing, it is telling what is Truth.

I said that the conceptual mind is an expression of reality. How can that not be true? 

Perhaps instead of denying it to help me, you could try to understand it. There's no need to feel threatened by new possibilities.

 

[James123]

9 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I said that the conceptual mind is an expression of reality. How can that not be true? 

What is that mean? Can you collaborate?

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Perhaps instead of denying it to help me, you could try to understand it. There's no need to feel threatened by new possibilities.

I understand you. But, Truth does not change, evolve etc... So how can I do what you want? Do you want me to lie to you?

[Breakingthewall]

Just now, James123 said:

What is that mean? Can you collaborate?

I understand you. But, Truth does not change, evolve etc... So how can I do what you want? Do you want me to lie to you?

What is the truth?

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

What is the truth?

Pure / Raw consciousness.

[Ishanga]

The Human Being is the only Life on this planet that is able to Realize and Experience the Truth they are sharing in their own words, but its a matter of HOW.

We are so Survival Based Identified, its built into our nervous system and cultural conditioning, that Karma is very strong otherwise we would not have Survived as a Species for very long, but we can go above it now more than ever since Survival is more guaranteed with today's tech than ever before, but we're still caught in Survival Mode mostly, everything is set up to have a Few Benefit while the rest of Us try to stay above Water...

All the methods developed and created, and shared over the Millenias is just here for Us to realize this Truth, that we are not the Body/Mind, we are something else that is connected with Everything Else physical and non physical, what was there before the Big Bang...

[Breakingthewall]

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

Pure / Raw consciousness.

That's reductionist. Pure raw consciousness is now walking down the street at 45-degree temperatures with a phone in hand. Why?

[Breakingthewall]

9 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

The Human Being is the only Life on this planet that is able to Realize and Experience the Truth they are sharing in their own words, but its a matter of HOW.

We are so Survival Based Identified, its built into our nervous system and cultural conditioning, that Karma is very strong otherwise we would not have Survived as a Species for very long, but we can go above it now more than ever since Survival is more guaranteed with today's tech than ever before, but we're still caught in Survival Mode mostly, everything is set up to have a Few Benefit while the rest of Us try to stay above Water...

All the methods developed and created, and shared over the Millenias is just here for Us to realize this Truth, that we are not the Body/Mind, we are something else that is connected with Everything Else physical and non physical, what was there before the Big Bang...

completely agree, but to do what you're talking about, you have to take a step that no technique is going to help you take. You have to, sober or on psychedelics, stare straight into a baseless abyss that opens before you, bottomless, which is called death. You have to hold that gaze, and without clinging to any idea of consolation, affirm with absolute truth: I want to dissolve into that abyss, expecting nothing except dissolution, letting go of any hope or possibility. It's not a thought, but an action. Then your body disappears, your mind too, and the absolute opens before you, and you blend with it. You are that, and that is absolutely empty, death, absolute nihilism. You have to hold it until the observer dissolves and opens, then the whole is revealed. It's everything, there is no center and you are that .

[James123]

6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's reductionist.  Why?

Any questions, naming, labeling arises within the mind? 

7 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Pure raw consciousness is now walking down the street at 45-degree temperatures with a phone in hand.

Body is, not You.

[Mellowmarsh]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Any questions, naming, labeling arises within the mind? 

Body is, not You.

The body is a non physical idea arising in consciousness? A consciousness that has no direct experience of what it feels like to be a physical body part.  For example: I am conscious of a hand, but I am not that hand. And the hand knows nothing of its existence in and of itself, it’s basically just an idea in consciousness only ? Eh!