The Illusion of Moral Progress: Why Gradual Change will never be enough

[OMG]

@Leo Gura

On 01/07/2025 at 11:01 AM, Leo Gura said:

@OMG Any attempt at success has a pretty high failure rate in life.

What is it you expect? Everyone who takes the LP course to succeed? Of course that will not happen.

Do you know how many projects/careers I've attempted in life and failed at? A LOT. That's how this stuff works.

And what does any of this have to do with moral progress? If you have personal gripes with me, that's fine, but don't conflate it with questions about reality and history.

Also note that I have never claimed to be free of corruption. I am corrupt in some ways. When I speak of corruption it is not to virtue signal to you but because this is a topic I am deeply interested in researching. I share my research with you.

I don't expect everyone to take the LP course to succeed and the definition of success various for each of us but still overall its really dishonest and sly of self help teacher to position themselves as in higher moral ground often shitting on mainstream institution as marketing ploy when those mainstream institution on average yields higher and better results across many spectrum in comparison to what they offer. This very is similar to your criticism of alt media being more corrupt and dishonest vs traditional lacking in standards etc. 

This doesn't have anything to do with moral progress but there's mentions of corruption related to your work which I admire to some extent and had left me and others handicapped from moving an inch forward towards success because we don't want to engage in corruption while being on this path. I don't expect you or anyone to be completely free of corruption but also doing this kind of work one expects one to at least walk their talk at least else your just like Jordan Peterson admitting to his bullshit while not taking any actions to correct and resolve them to further justify his corruptions and virtue signal that he's admitting it which is just step 1.  

 

[trenton]

Guys, I have been doing further research. In a future post I may need to discuss the American political situation. It seems bad enough that I am considering leaving the United States. I will complete my research and then share with my family as well as this forum. I am strongly considering leaving America within the next 3-5 years. The political situation is very very dire and it may be worse than what most of us are imagining.

[Rafael Thundercat]

2 hours ago, trenton said:

Guys, I have been doing further research. In a future post I may need to discuss the American political situation. It seems bad enough that I am considering leaving the United States. I will complete my research and then share with my family as well as this forum. I am strongly considering leaving America within the next 3-5 years. The political situation is very very dire and it may be worse than what most of us are imagining.

Take this one, this was a contemplation in for of sarcasm by a woman who teach people to organize for what is coming:

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Government: Ladies, just stay home, have babies, and help the economy grow.

Women: Ok, but we’re gonna need universal healthcare, universal pre-K, equal pay, maternity pay and housing. Oh, and make sure the men go to therapy so they stop killing us.

Government: The best we can do is a trillion-dollar tax cut for billionaires. 🤷‍♂️

💀💀💀

Her point is:

It’s clear to me they don’t care if it tanks the economy. Women leaving the workforce hurts GDP, productivity, and growth, but their agenda isn’t economic health…it’s social control.

 

Edited July 2 by Rafael Thundercat

[trenton]

4 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

Take this one, this was a contemplation in for of sarcasm by a woman who teach people to organize for what is coming:

" 

Government: Ladies, just stay home, have babies, and help the economy grow.

Women: Ok, but we’re gonna need universal healthcare, universal pre-K, equal pay, maternity pay and housing. Oh, and make sure the men go to therapy so they stop killing us.

Government: The best we can do is a trillion-dollar tax cut for billionaires. 🤷‍♂️

💀💀💀

Her point is:

It’s clear to me they don’t care if it tanks the economy. Women leaving the workforce hurts GDP, productivity, and growth, but their agenda isn’t economic health…it’s social control.

 

I will do research on this too. I currently don't fully understand the government's interest in controlling people's sexuality. I'm not sure what they think they are achieving concretely.

At the same time the government only giving tax cuts for billionaires is a big part of the problem. The reason American governance is ineffective is because the wealthy elites have captured the entire legal apparatus and have rendered it limited to maximizing profits at the top. Once this happens, the government becomes limited by short term profits rather than long term sustainability. I sense that America is deeply unsustainable and unreformable despite any well-meaning left wing movement. The wealthy elites are completely entrenched in the legal system. Their agenda is to extract as much wealth as possible at the expense of the entire nation and the future of hundreds of millions. It is this corruption which I believe will be America's downfall in the near future. There is nothing we can do to reform this system and I believe it will collapse.

[Rafael Thundercat]

And chattel slavery coming back soon. Check at 5:55 of his interview about Alligator Alcatraz. Check what he say about farmers and they being " responsable" or "owning" some of the illegals. 

This is regression.

[trenton]

@Rafael Thundercat Well, I now understand the government's interest in controlling people's reproductive and sexual choices. In layman's terms Trump is full of shit. I know it might sound shocking, but you can trust me.

Edited July 2 by trenton

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, trenton said:

@Rafael Thundercat Well, I now understand the government's interest in controlling people's reproductive and sexual choices. In layman's terms Trump is full of shit. I know it might sound shocking, but you can trust me.

And we are not even talking about the alligator alcatraz merchand. 

Americans elected Biff Tannen

[ArchStanton_]

Man, just drop the anti-corporate shit. That stuff rots your brain more than any can of coca cola will.