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Man Is A Bridge. A Strange Loop Of The Infinite

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What makes us different from animals?

this is something I'm contemplating on, it just hit me. The true difference is self reflective awareness. Not just being aware, but being aware that we are aware. The animal is the horse. The human being is the rider who suddenly realizes, I am riding a horse.

 

This is a kind of metacognition. It’s the divine spark that opens the door to ask, “What am I?Why am I here?” “What is this?” No other animal stares into the void of Consciousness and reflects on existence. I'm wondering where this comes from, and I don't want to hear anything about evolution and biology because that's just in the dream. I think a deeper answer is metaphysical.

From God's perspective, the human being is not a product of matter, it’s a dream character within consciousness waking up to its source. A self-knowing loop in the infinite field of Being. Whoaaa!!!!

You, as the human, are the interface between animal nature and God-consciousness. A bridge between the finite and the infinite. That bridge itself is the missing key I'd say. We are God dreaming it is man. The mystery of form waking up to formlessness. You are not a body with awareness, you are awareness appearing as a body for a while, to know itself through limitation. And what makes the human being human is not just emotion or survival, but the capacity to transcend survival, to die for love, for truth, for beauty.

What makes us human is not that we survive,but that we can choose to awaken, love, and die for something greater than survival. That’s God, realizing itself through us. 💥 

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Interesting reflection. The main difference I see between animals and humans is a phase shift. Animals have a level of perception that's completely integrated with their physical structure and environment. They're one with their experience, with the humans a new level arises, the mind , that is the center of the experience, who can process and analize the experience, it is not the experience but the experiencer. This mind communicates with other minds through the language giving birth to the collective mind. 

It is logical to think that if other levels such as plants, complex animals, and humans emerge from a level like bacteria, there would be more levels of existence, expanded pure intelligence, consciousness without physical support, conscious energy, things like that.

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I dont think self reflection, contemplation. I think animals have self reflection but they cant think about whats going on. I think animals can know they are separate and have identities. I just think they are retards. We are like over 100 thousand times smarter than them. Like a 5 year old they know they exist and can learn therefore reflect on actions but a 5 year old compared to a 30 year old who has been traumatized so many times is a more refined intelligence. We can self reflect way better because we are way smarter. A child has like very minimal brain activity or lives almost completely in the light and no dark world stuff. We are smarter because we are more in the dark world(thinking making conclusions judging lying stealing learning, mental stuff is dark world)

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@Hojo Yes, certain animals may show rudimentary self-reflection, like recognizing their body or navigating social dynamics, but we humans are capable of reflecting on our own reflections, creating recursive loops of awareness. Contemplation isn't just one feature though, we are able to hold many layers of abstraction, meaning, and inquiry about existence itself. we don't just think, we know that we think, and then we question why we think, who is thinking, and whether the thinker exists at all. This recursive self awareness is what opens the door to philosophy, art, religion, science, and even metaphysical inquiry. yes an advanced animal can self reflect, but there are many dimensions to self awareness and ours is multidimensional.

 

It's interesting learning about cephalopods and octopuses from Terrance McKenna because he States based off observation and with his experiences with psilocybin mushrooms, that octopuses communicate through a visual language on the surface of their skin but we mistake their physical and bodily changes as surface level survival defense mechanisms. But really octopuses are very intelligent and they communicate through a visual language which you can see, which minimizes ambiguity within their society. Intelligence in nature is so versatile, that we take for granted our ability to self inquire and to have this meta awareness. But when you look at nature you can see many forms of advanced varieties of intelligence.

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@ExploringReality I think all your intellect and contemplation is just a more refined self the exact same one as your baby self. Its just adding more stuff to it. Its the same self even if it seems smaller. 

So contemplation is just you defining and refining the same line more and more. Its not better or worse or more or less. An animal would do very little contemplating because it cant its intelligence and intellect is garbage.

If the self was a backpack humans are like carrying 1000s of books and a hog has like an Archie comic, the backpack is the same and you dont have more or less of the backpack by having 1000s of books in it. Infact having 1000s of books in it makes you weight more and become further from God(Evolution). So logically in my theory a Hog knows or is more close to God than you or I, with less self reflection and intellect and intelligence.

The humans ability to contemplate strays them further from God but this is what makes them different than any other animal.

Like I think a Gorilla could see itself in the mirror if it was looking for it via contemplation and become more self aware. If it could somehow contemplate.

I think one Gorilla could see itself in the mirror and another couldnt. This would mean its not a species trait. Once the Gorilla sees himself whatever he makes up about that thing is just adding on more to the discovery and is not useful its just a story or more or less self reflection.

Reality is like a screen that you are moving closer and further away from at varying levels and metaphysical degrees.

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@Hojo

You’re confusing having more thoughts with having deeper awareness. Contemplation isn’t just piling on mental noise, it’s realizing what the mind is, questioning it, and sometimes even dropping it entirely. That’s not the same as a baby’s mind or a hog’s instinct. Animals may be closer to God in their simplicity, but they’re not aware of that, notice that difference. They don’t contemplate the nature of being, death, or illusion. Only humans can do that, and that capacity used properly  doesn’t pull you away from God. It points you back to the source.

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@ExploringReality Gods not aware that it exists.

Animals are self aware to varying degrees, we are just one degree on the same line they are on. If you had a human and didnt pay any attention to it it could have less self awareness than an ape in the jungle.

21 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

@Hojo

They don’t contemplate the nature of being, death, or illusion. Only humans can do that

Yes thank you for stating that contemplation is the thing that separates animals from humans.

You contemplate away from source to contemplate back to source. That is creating a complex identity with the same awareness an ape has when it looks in the mirror and sees itself. And then realizing that all the shit it told itself about itself was made up and going back to source to baby mind. The self never changed just contemplating habits.

The only reason to do spiritual practice is to see you cant die so you wont be scared when you die. The deeper awareness you felt you had obtained will be abolished because deeper is not closer God is the surface of life. Deeper awareness is dark world,God is light, contemplation is dark world/satanic/away from God.


Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@Hojo

You're mistaking intellectual loops for clarity, and dressing it up as spirituality. You're confusing levels of awareness with the nature of awareness itself. The fact that humans and animals are on a spectrum of self awareness doesn’t mean the quality of awareness is the same. What makes humans unique isn't just degree, it’s our meta-cognitive ability which your not appreciating. We don't just see the mirror, we realize there is a mirror, that we’re seeing through it, and that the one looking is empty. That’s not just baby mind with more thoughts that’s a structural leap I'm sure Leo would agree on.

Your parroting spiritual sounding ideas without actually realizing the place those ideas are pointing to. You've mistaken the map for the territory, then declared the map evil. Bro’s out here saying contemplation is satanic while using contemplation to explain why contemplation is satanic.

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@ExploringReality When you die you wont remember that, Its useless information. You parrot chat gpt word for word.

Anything realized deeply is nothing but touching yourself. Congrats you touched yourself now what?

Satan is not evil its lies. Evil is what happens when satan lies.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@Hojo

You’re mistaking cynicism for insight. Dismissing deep realization as just touching yourself only shows you haven’t touched anything real yet. Your saying touching yourself is useless, it sounds like you never had a good awakening, or a girlfriend lol 

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@ExploringReality I have had sex over 3000 times


Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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32 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@ExploringReality I have had sex over 3000 times

Classic spiritual bypass 😂 when all else fails, brag about your body counts.

You’ve touched a lot of bodies, but have you ever touched Being? Also I don't care about you having sex, it wasn't a literal claim, it was a double entender, a joke if you failed to understand.

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@ExploringReality You brought it into the conversation I am defending myself moron. It also didnt say anything about a body count. Are you writing replying with chatgpt?

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@Hojo  your not defending yourself, your reacting because the mask slipped, and accusing me of using chat to bypass your inadequate mind.

Also I brought it in the equation because I was poking fun at the fact that you're saying that all Spiritual Awakening is just touching yourself and that it's useless, I thought it was quite funny because it seems as though you've never really touched yourself with your attitude

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@ExploringReality Its God touching itself. It touches itself all the time. You didnt say anything about touching myself you made a clear attack on me never having sex. So I defended myself.

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Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@ExploringReality Ok princess.


Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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