Survival situations and spiral dynamics

[LordFall]

@Carl-Richard You made the point that your stage of development is the stage you regress to when shit hits the fan which are ultimately survival situations. 

I don’t know if this is accurate but it’s an interesting theory. What do you think about this? @Leo Gura

I feel like if shit hits the fan I would have to resort to stealing and potentially violence to fulfill my survival needs like mostly food shelter harder imagine so is that stage red? 

But isn’t that everyone? Or would stage blue somehow self sacrifice instead of hurting another, I feel like that’s clearly not true and only a stage turquoise sage would perhaps do it like Jesus dying on the cross otherwise it’s hard to imagine. 
 

I think hopefully we won’t really be in true survival situations but if we do how do you guys think you’ll react? 
 

Also after having reflected on it writing this I don’t think judging only your most hardcore problem solving patterns make sense, you have to take the whole thing into account. 

[Carl-Richard]

6 hours ago, LordFall said:

@Carl-Richard You made the point that your stage of development is the stage you regress to when shit hits the fan which are ultimately survival situations.

I'm not quite sure if I said that. What are you referring to?

[LordFall]

@Carl-Richard I think perhaps I took your point too extremely when you said that your stage is how you deal with problems here

My thinking was there are different tiers of problems and sometimes people have ideals that they wanna live up to but when shit hits the fan they become a lot more ruthless and I thought thats what you meant when you said think they're at a stage that they don't really embody.

Feel free to flesh out your thoughts thought I'd be curious. I'm writing this from a Mcdonalds and I just ran into a homeless man that embodies this actually. He wished me a happy easter and was a kind dude even though I didn't have any money to give him. Said he lives under a bridge and has been homeless for 29 years and lost a finger caring for his wife in the cold. Perhaps he is at a higher level of development than I, if I were in that position I would end up in jail through theft, no way I would let myself be homeless. I don't know if that's true or if he refused to embody the healthy part of stage red and he would have a better life in jail. Maybe not he also does seem to have a wife and be somewhat happy so it's an interesting question to deeply ponder.