Truth Addict

Thank you ? you just gave the brief for the whole post: "A collective agreement, a language, Not Truth" I lost hope for a minute, cuz it's so obvious, it can't be unseen. Still it's hard for some people to see it. And I would like to read your book when it's done if you don't mind ?

Sorry guys, been playing for ages ?

@Dodo You're wrong, you're still stuck in your mind. Do some inquiry, it'll help a lot. I wasn't talking about units, it's totally irrelevant for my claims. 2 is a human convention. We call it 2 cats when 1 cat is next to another 1 cat. 3 is the same, we call it 3 cats when 1 cat is next to another 1 cat and another 1 cat. Same thing for 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,etc... We agreed to do so, consciously or unconsciously. Are you aware of this? Mathematics is only happening in your mind. In the real world though, objects don't have digital values. Values are mind-made. There is only one, everything is one. You just can't see it yet. Remember the orange juice example? It's exactly the same with cats and with everything else. You can't combine 1 orange juice with another 1 orange juice and get 2 orange juices. You will always and only get 1 orange juice. Get out of your mind a little bit and examine the real world. This is a real-life exercise, not some intellectual mind storming. For practical purposes, we agreed to use abbreviations for everything. We abbreviate "1 cat and 1 cat and 1 cat" with the symbol "3 cats". See, it's a mind game. Exactly like language, we call that annoying creature clawing on your curtains a CAT. We can call it anything else. Is the word CAT a real CAT? of course not. Same thing goes for mathematics. Is the number 2 two objects? Of course not. It points to 1 and 1 objects, but it itself is just 1 object. Become conscious of this fact or don't. It's blindly obvious. 2 cats is an abbreviation for 1 cat + 1 cat, no more no less. I'm not going to discuss anymore. You need to become conscious of this Truth directly, or you'll stay stuck in illusion.

Thank you. *Background music: burn it to the ground* ?

Yeah, whatever. Of course. Yeah, whatever.

Surrealism.

? I actually removed many points from the post before posting it because otherwise it would be very long and maybe hard to understand. One of these ideas is: 1>1 and 1<1 because 1 contains everything including itself, which ultimately creates infinite number of infinities. I still wonder how couldn't I see it before? It's so obvious!

Lmao, there are infinite options tbh, select cancel for more options. ? Welcome home. ?? Select cancel for more options. It's not the Truth though, just playing around.

My emotions were never better than now, and I'm almost a year in spirituality. But in comparison, some other facets of my life deteriorated, of course due to me focusing too much on emotions (which I made huge progress on), and now I need to work harder to get back on my feet. Let's get to work! Maybe I made a mistake, maybe I should have balanced between everything. However, I'm still happy and I don't reject it. ?

Yes exactly. And actually 1 isn't even a thing, not even a concept, it's nothing and everything at the same time. I kind of understand the whole thing but can't communicate it. Maybe the most accurate description is: a continuum of everything and nothing where everything is ultimately nothing and nothing is ultimately everything. One contains everything. ?

Assuming that I want to quit my addiction(s) in the first place. It's much more complicated than that.

Drama.

@Dodo Actually 1+1 can't be 2. It's just a concept, in reality though, 1+1=1 because the process of combination implies oneness ultimately. You can't combine stuff and get something other than one, if you do get, then you're wrong. "Happiness occurs, no one is happy" is mere dogma for me, I don't really understand this statement. But I like it, it sounds fancy. ?

@Dodo If 1+1=3 what is 2? Concepts, my friend. Happiness occurs, actually no one is happy.

So, you're not talking about Islam, you're talking about your (and Sufi's) version of it. But nevertheless, who would even try to distort that specific topic anyways? (I mean the oneness topic). It doesn't benefit anyone on any level, why would they say Allah is different from us? Rather than He's us? Distorting this "fact" doesn't make any sense. I don't know, you can be right, see this verse for example: Allah is closer to us than ourselves! But he created us. Maybe it's not something to be understood rationally. I don't know.

That's not corruption actually. The Quran states many times that Allah is different from us. Few examples of many: Here ? the verse is ordering Mohammed to say: I am only a mortal etc..

Don't worry about the mess, it made me smile, lol. No, I don't think you get my point. Watch This, Leo demonstrates the case very deeply.

In Islam, you and God (Allah) are separate. He is The Creator, you are the creation.

nono, i did not say beliefs are the truth. i said beliefs are ways/methods to the truth. big difference. and I also said not just one belief is the right method. most beliefs at core lead to the same truth or concept. but you choose which one that touches you according to your background and your own mental understandings. and i'll try to answer you question according to my own understanding. i think the truth is absolute. there's no "my" and "your" truth. there is, though, "my" and "your" belief or beliefs [; Are you aware that everything you said is just stories? Is there any way to verify them? You're believing in your beliefs and you're not aware of that (meta-believing), but have you ever questioned them? Inquire a little bit, and (kindly) tell us what you find. Good luck. I don't even identify with fun, joy, laughter, etc.. anymore. I don't care if Truth brings me depression, I just want to know. (not attached to emotions or outcome, or at least this is what I tell myself). Of course, that's not a bad thing, actually I feel above all feelings, only if I could get rid of my addictions and ignorance, my life would become incredible.

@zoey101 I don't think it's about self-actualization or meditation or anything else. I don't think I know anything anymore. It's life, really confusing. I literally have no clue whatsoever.

@Outer Lol, no worries dude. Just speculating. I liked your previous profile picture btw, guy and two girls ??

Good point. Thanks. There's nothing stimulating in pixels on a screen. Your mind thinks it's stimulating. But it's a belief. However, you can become mindful of how you get sucked into the illusion. I think this might be useful to practice.

"God is unknown" is also a belief. Also, how could 'prophets' know God and tell us about him if he's unknown? Did they just believe? If so, believe who? Consider the possibility that these people here might have a perspective. What if they're right? What if God can be known? I wouldn't want to miss the opportunity to know Him. (I'm not enlightened).

Okay, I understand, but how do you know it's the Truth? What is the Truth then? Tell me please if you would, I've been searching for so long. If you believe that your beliefs are the Truth, then what's the difference between both? And a catch 22 question: Is my Truth the true Truth, or yours, or his, or hers, or theirs, or ours all?

It's obviously an illusion, even if all the people on earth fell for it, it's still an illusion. We're seeking Truth, which is the only valuable thing we could ever think of. It's even more valuable than survival. That's the mindset we're here to learn. My question was just to get to know other perspectives on video games. So thank you.