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May I ask what is the difference for you between sitting silently and, say, do-nothing meditation? Is it less centeredness of attention? Is it allowing to identify with thoughts compared to returning to the consciousness that is behind all thought? I'm curious.

Well, not if you vape it. I vaped through GVG, works excellent. I also used the bong, also works great, but way more harsh. To be honest, yes smoking would not be optimal for the lungs - but this is a rather small price to pay for realizing God imo. But yeah, I prefer vaping which is not really different from vaping the freebase.

@Aaron p Wow, very inspiring! I have quite a bit of fear due to a lot of experienced terror on 5-MeO, even though I did let go a few times. Your report is very motivating. Thank you for sharing all of this ?

Something to share here, because I've been experimenting with NN for about 2 years now. I repeatedly stumbled upon the fact that most veterans in the DMT Nexus said that they find changa to be far superior to freebase for several reasons. So before that, I would always use the freebase in my GVG. And I know what you mean Leo, it seems very ineffective and unnecessarily complicated - until one learns how to vape it. Then, it is pretty simple and reliable, especially with the liquid pad. Then I switched to changa. Oh man... I understand why so many swear by it. 1. It's sooo easy to smoke, you know what you get. It's almost impossible, with a bit of care, not to burn any substance. Bong, GVG, normal pipe, whatever. 2. When you're careful (as we all should be), it's really hard to go too far. I find changa to be much more grounded in the sense that there is less potential terror and confusion. It feels more earthy and magical to me, not like a jet flying in your face. 3. Changa seems more lucid than freebase. Like in a lucid dream, it's a bit easier to stay fully present. Also, I retain much more memory of what happened and what I encountered. Freebase often times (but not always), feels so ephemeral, that when I return, I forget most of it within a few minutes. So for those of you who haven't tried, I highly recommend changa. Of course, using harmalas is similar to that, but I find changa way more convenient. Just vape it or smoke it.

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@abrakamowse @Galyna ♥ Let me know how your experience was Today I couldn't let go that easily to be honest, it's different every day.

And vice versa. Nor are you, or anyone else, lesser than. A great thread for your ongoing inquiry is this question: Why is there judgment? And what remains when there is absolutely no judgment, and no need to judge? These questions can get you to the core of everything. I recommend upping your meditation time if possible. It highly increases the depth available to you.

Same for me... I'm at Diamond Heart Book 5 now and every chapter changes something deeply for me. So many good books he wrote. There is nobody I know with so much complexity, precision and depth. I love this guy. I think it has largely to do with his logos being so challengingly big. Only after getting through quite a few books of his is the impact starting to reveal itself. There are these discussions between Rupert Spira and Almaas on YouTube (from Science and Nonduality), you know those? Almost nobody there understands what he's pointing to. Took me a while to understand his points, and they come from yeeeears of deep digging. I think that's why he's not so easily accessible. Requires a lot of studying.

@Marten do you have any idea why it's always dogs though?

Exactly. Facing the fear is completely, absolutely allowing it to be there and even to let reaction be there. Reaction happens, resisting that just adds more layers of reaction. The only thing we can choose is the willingness to be present with everything. Fear is not bad. It is love that doesn't understand itself. And I'm saying this being very scared to get back into 5 again. It's crazy how many people experience this same dread: this total conviction that one actually dies. My biggest hurdle is as well thinking about others finding me dead. That's the core of the self/other delusion playing its finest cards. ...but it calls me back

@Demeter Realizing how much work there is can be both disappointing and humbling. If one accepts that, it can lead to even more compassion for oneself, patience and willingness to go all the way. I do think one can get stuck in shadow work. That's what psychotherapy without spiritual work is doing. That's why we look into the nature of reality at the same time. Don't worry, reality will tell you when it's time to let even healing go. You got this ♥

@Consilience I'm here with you, Day 1. Thanks for your bravery, being so public about it. No outside pressure will do it, but knowing that others read your reports, this can be a necessary extra push to pull through. All this is about is integrity. I fell back so many times - and it is not about this habit being bad. It is about what we want our lifes to be. And we know what we want. Let us remember it is not about fighting, but about clarity. And being clear about something will feel like fighting. Because seeing through the concepts that tell us we need that stuff is hard. And what is also hard is the accumulated "karma", guilt and shame from the past of not doing what we set out to do. Now is the time to go all the way. This is much more than getting over PMO. One can grow immensely from that. Blessings to you, stay strong and loving to yourself <3

Isn't Naranjo the one Almaas worked with for many years? By the way, amazing posts here, I only got through the last page, but I will dig into it more - very inspiring sharings

@Demeter No matter where one is and what one ingests, if you listen intently, reality will always lead you to work on the ignorance that is important in that specific moment. Having any expectations of going into „higher realms“ is exactly what will hold pure, open discovery back - that‘s what limited me for a long time at least. How psychedelics work changes depending on what one has understood and how much one has purified. This is a journey we all need to go through one step at a time. So don‘t rush, take your time, and trust that when you sincerely look into your experience, you will find out what you need to find out at any given moment. This humility and openness is what paradoxically gets me much deeper than I often expect, even without psychedelics.

JESUS... Best so far

Beautiful ! @Consilience @Johnny5 ??

@LfcCharlie4 I think you're making very good points here. Even when the I-thought is literally absent, there can be a tendency which will still happen. So these things need to be adressed. But there is also another point, which is very subtle but important: When we talk about what we're doing here, it's not really only awakening. Most of us (I hope) don't see an end point. We are embarking on the endless journey of maturation as a Godly being, whatever that means. There is naturally also personal transformation that is necessary. We are even a personal vessel for God, even though we are not identified with it. And that will have to be worked through. Awakening(s) are very specific insights into the nature of reality. They don't magically erase everything else. So when some speak about awakening, they mean the whole thing: maturation, fulfilling our full purpose. Others really only mean enlightenment. Looking at teachers, I see a clear correspondence between this complete view of the work and how the teacher is embodying it.

@An young being And if you can't authentically love even your ego - when it is obviously your ego trying to do something right - inquire into why that is. Why are you trying to do anything? Any thought and internal movement, in any direction, why are you taking it? You will find your way. Blessings to you <3

I haven't seen that much yet, but I feel he is at times trying to reframe everything that is said into his own framework. Which is probably great for his own synthesis, but it also sometimes feels like it is a forced try at grasping something that maybe he doesn't understand yet. Anyway, amazing format!

I really liked the first Hameed Ali interview, as well as the one from Karen Johnsson (they together formed the Diamond Approach). I found her authenticity and openness quite refreshing

And what about smoking synthetic? I'm still wondering if (and if yes, why) you seem convinced that plugging is better? I mean "better" is really relative and I also think it depends on the person and the goal. But for me, and I tried both ROA's multiple times, smoking is way more effective at getting me right into the truth. I've had what you describe in your video - the realization that if I now let go, everything will disappear. And it did, and I still came back afterwards. I don't think it's that rare for people who seriously work with the substance. I'm wondering if this is also due to smoking being shorter and more intense than plugging. When plugging, my ego structures seemed to see it coming and found the most sneaky ways to make me unaware, thus reinforcing resistance.

In this interview he teases some things he wrote about in "Runaway Realization", which was not finished when the interview was held. One of the deepest, most big-picture books I've ever read, highly recommend. It definitely put Leo's views in perspective for me. Almaas really makes the most sense when you have a larger understanding on his teaching.

As @Rilles said - you're not in control. The question of how to let yourself be falls away the moment you relax. What can you do? Look deeply into your experience. Be curious: "What is actually going on here?". Don't think about it, just listen to all phenomena. Don't manipulate it. Manipulation will happen -> don't manipulate the manipulation. But you will. And on and on it goes. At one level of resistance, you will stop resisting the resistance. But that will only happen if your consciousness (not the you you think you are) really sees and understands why the resistance is the problem itself. It's the reason "you" can't let go. So really, just be very present without force and leave yourself alone. No matter how much you fight, no movement of your mind will make that go away. See that it's hopeless and your consciousness will rest in seeing that. It's not you who has to accomplish anything.

Exactly 1 to 2 hours a day - enlightenment will come when within 33 days in a row you don't deviate once from your object of focus. Was your question serious? If yes: forget the notion that any amount of whatever practice will get you enlightened. For your own good. Nevertheless, you'll have to figure that out for yourself anyway I personally found concentration on an object of experience (or the WHOLE experiential field at once) is the most effective practice there is. It's hard. Don't hope for any tool to help you here. The thing is, once you built a good amount of concentration, the effort starts falling away. But really, concentration is only one capacity out of many you need to develop to understand your experience. But it is a very important one to even start.

Nature, exercise, healthy food. Also, Yoga Nidra works wonders for working energy through the body and thereby grounding you. Also, don't try to hold on to any "shift in consciousness". Just be here now. Don't make it harder to come back than it is Here is a Yoga Nidra channel I highly recommend