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If the kids will end up as neurotic as me, I think I'll pass.

The response to that would probably be to not identify the ego, which is a subset of God, as the entirety of God. Leo the ego cannot physically materialise shit, I'm guessing.

Associated with suffering is a righteous indignation targeted at reality, "How dare you do this to me!". A grim, angry self righteousness.

@Lelouch Lamperouge Trump as a person is kind of ugly to me. But that hasn't got much to do with his policies. He's just a typical republican for the most part. I know it's a meme to make fun of Trump fans who think Trump is secretly smart and playing 4D chess, but on some level I have to believe it if he's just so successful. So there's probs a method to the madness, albeit you might think the method is low consciousness. I hope Bernie wins.

I'm gonna be talking from my experience of discovering repressed unconscious material. So I confronted, or more pessimistically put stumbled upon, contents of my mind I've suppressed from conscious awareness. There is an intense fear like no other. A fear at the absolute malevolence of the world. The malevolence which seeks to violate and rape everything innocent. And in my personal case, there are images of the ethereal tribe which demands conformity and crushes everything sacred and special. I just imagine shaded, detail-less humanoid figures with evil grins on their faces. Malevolence seeks to destroy goodness and innocence for the sake of it. I imagine the serial killer who ruthlessly tortures the infant to death. Is this feeling of violation the root of so much trauma I and others have, I wonder. The perception of pure evil, and the terrifying feeling of trying to run away from it but not succeeding. And worst of all is neither the fight or flight, but the freeze reaction. The despondency of being violated. There are traumas I imagine which can generalise beyond the specific form of human malevolence and violation. I can imagine the some ancient humans living in the jungle and a child has their dad eaten in front of them by a Lion. In which case the blame shifts to reality and nature itself quite directly. But nonetheless, you feel violated by nature. Well I frame it like that for now since inquiring and contemplating this word "violation" is extremely interesting and fascinating for me in this present moment. For some strange reason the contemplation/inquiry of the intense fear I felt has turned into bliss and amusement for now.

Meditating and contemplating on time alone enough can get you in deep territory, so keep doing it. A recurring theme for me is the paradox of flux existing in a timeless world, since in science, a non-zero finite interval of time is needed for anything to change. I could type insights I've had from previous mystical states, but those states are gone, and so typing them is not genuine. Neither does believing in anything help.

@Average Investor There's his "a million thoughts" books which is about how to meditate. I've read over half of it. Its cool, nothing amazingly new for me. He talks about the facets of what make a good meditation, and different techniques. He analyses the different things to it, and tells you how to do it efficiently and properly. He talks about posture, concentration, mindfulness, alertness and maybe other stuff as components to good meditation.

A book written by Om Swami purely on the topic of depression and curing it. I like how the book keeps it relatively simple but is still nuanced. The book spends a long time in the first half writing a bunch of anecdotes, and they serve well. He writes stories about how people got into depression in the first place, what things helped them get out of it. He brings a grounded yogic perspective to all of it. What he does well is showing a variety of stories, where all these people had different circumstances and causes, and they all had different things which helped them out of it. Some people's depression can be traced to upbringing or events which can obviously be concluded to be traumatic by an outsider, others seem to get it out of nowhere for little known obvious reason and end up confused. Whatever the case, one needs to be careful with the shame or guilt they feel of "I have so much, why am I still depressed, am I broken?". Regardless of how obvious or not obvious the cause of the depression looks, there's always some seed. Some experience, and the negative emotions you felt in your perception of it. Unhealed grief and suppressed emotions may hide for a while before unexpectedly giving you depression. The seed was always there, you just never noticed it until the depression. With the nuances and different ways depression arises, there are some universalities and general principles. The yogic framework of there being three bodies to all of us acts as a good analogy for succinctly communicating the wholistic nature of the depression. In it there is the physical, subtle and causal body. It is useful to target and think of each individually, in addition to understanding that dysfunction in one can migrate into dysfunction in another. So the point being made, latch and take hold of multiple approaches. Cover as many bases and address as many things as you can. Diet, meditation, exercise, yoga techniques (of which he gives a few in the book), shadow work and trauma healing, sleep. He gives a little bit of advice and a few techniques on all of these things which you can use, ofc you're better off with also looking into all of it elsewhere as well. He mentions antidepressants, also talks about conflation of temporary sadness with depression. Good book overall. I didn't find anything earth shattering, but the groundedness of it all can give one who's depressed perspective and hope about their issues.

I kept that on my profile cuz I can't think of anything funnier/better.

BERNIE BROS RISE UP If Bernie is the democratic candidate, the memes during the election will be funny as well. Biden is so fucking uninspiring, all he can do is milk dry his association with Obama "haha yes I worked with the first black man to be president".

It's the classic case of casting pearls before swine. If the person themselves is not introspective, no amount of knowledge or data will make up for it. I've talked to many people into meditation in real life, and it's little more than some fad they don't contemplate. Kind of makes me sad how lonely the path is. According Carl Jung, water is the commonest symbol of the unconscious. I'm not what that means, or why that symbol, but the idea is out there. I'm clueless on the idea that there are universal symbols for things across all cultures (so the symbols would therefore be inherited in some form), in the same way the collective unconscious is collection of patterns of survival that is inherited and not due to personal acquisition from your own life experiences. Hopeful I don't poison your descriptions or contemplations of things with extra knowledge/theories like these which are of no inherent use.

Bruh

It may be low conciousness, but at least some of it is authentic. I don't listen to many rappers, but Kendrick Lamars is pretty good, his album DAMN is raw. There is art in all levels of conciousness but you'll need a high level of conciousness to appreciate it all, in you whatever way that means for you. It depends on the relationship you hold to the music that determines it influence for you personally. Difference between getting negatively absorbed and positively absorbed by music.

Hmmm another Zzen thread. Even if Zzen is deluded in some way (i mean the word relatively, he's probably less deluded than the average person) he's not a terrible guy. He's pretty friendly. It's always been a mistake to make this journey about your guru, about their belief system or ideas they share. Its what ive seen many critics do to Leo all the time. Ive criticised Leo in the past for being too conceptual, but eh, finger pointing at the moon at the end of the day. I think many people simply get put off from watching someone mid trip, which I can empathise with since I have that same reaction, but realise that its a irrational thing to cringe at Leo filming videos of him when on a psychedelic. And again, people assume narcissism and ego on Leos part when he says "I am god", but the point is that you are god and so is everything and everyone else. me=you=Leo......, you know how this train of thought goes You are a miraculous spontaneous happening in the present moment, the present moment exists and "comes from" nothing, is nothing. Physicists obfuscate the fact that every moment is literally energy coming from nothing (its a miracle), through constructing an abstract definition of energy and "work done". All physicists have done is noticed a pattern, and labelled that pattern energy. Edit: The way I see it, Leo's videos where he talks a lot are ineffective at directly trying to get you to awaken. As in, even if the disclaimer "this is all a finger pointing at the moon" is given, it might be hard from a practical perspective to actually increase your consciousness from his videos. But it's a harsh criticism to say this since no gurus videos will awaken you, it comes down to doing the practices and direct experience. The disclaimer is given, its up to you to reinforce it. Other gurus might just remind you of the disclaimer more often, but it isn't something to fairly criticise Leo about imo.

It's on the 24th April, king

"Why God, why God do I gotta suffer? Pain in my heart carry burdens full of struggle Why God, why God do I gotta bleed? Every stone thrown at you restin' at my feet Why God, why God do I gotta suffer? Earth is no more, why don't you burn this mufucka?"

When learning about MBTI, make sure to learn about cognitive functions. Personality types XXXX(e.g. INFJ) are a secondary conceptual construction to the construction of cognitive functions, so from a certain angle one is more fundemental on the chain of epistemology. Its certainly interesting theory for me. For one, it sort of expands my capacity to communicate if someone else understands MBTI. I can refrence different functions or axes. Its extremely accurate in a lot of views in my experience, quite amazing. For me, it's strength is also it's weakness. It's strength is that it lets me point to complex things about perception and cognition in terse words, and these are things I can't precisely articulate but have gathered an intuition/feeling of over time. And other people can use their own intuitions/feelings when I use an MBTI word. But the weakness comes when you're talking past each other, classical confusing the map for the territory. Thought trains which perpetually go around in circles. THIS PARAGRAPH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT. THE 16 PERSONALITIES WEBSITE TEST IS TRASH. These two are good: https://sakinorva.net/functions https://jung.test.typologycentral.com/

Primitive/Tribal man has a tendency to project his psychic struggles onto his explanations of the outside world, rather than having rational/scientific explanation. This makes for a good perspective. The idea that these zodiac signs can predict personality is stupid. What isn't stupid though is exploring the models themselves, seeing the way primitive man explored the different facets of the psyche in metaphor of celestial objects. What is interesting is this idea that there exist collectively held images/symbols for certain things. E. G., water is perhaps the universal symbol of the "unconscious" for many people, or the moon is a symbol for femininity.

@RevoCulture You're pretty much right. There's a universal pattern in how thoughts block one from introspection, blocks one from seeing hazy unconsciousness with a clearer microscope with higher resolution. It doesn't matter if you change the precise content of the thought by using zen or yoga terms. When provided or contemplating a question one might just give an immediate conditioned answer from the memory structures of the ego, and if one gives an answer like "well such and such a problem is inevitable" then that sort of answer tends to block one from introspecting the precise nature of this thing that is regarded as inevitable. I find this point very well articulated by Jiddu Krishnamurti and Peter Ralston. As Peter Ralston would put it, by filling in space with your "knowing" you prevent exploration of that space. I remember hearing something from Sadhguru that clicked with me about how western and eastern approaches differ. He said that in yoga one is, in some sense, "disregarding" their psychological structure. And there is extremely good reason to, its the basis for many meditative practices and getting enlightened and etc. So all these zen quips you hear will be in line with this general theme. But then there's also the fact that this approach isn't the only tool one has to use. It would be perhaps be unwise to not partake in activities/practices like therapy which relate to western exploration of the psychological structure. I'm thinking of guys like Carl Jung, who push their understanding into mystical and abstract domains , alongside simple down to earth practices as a part of shadow work. The west has yielded spiral dynamics. Sometimes I might be purely trying to meditate, trying to stay away from getting "caught" in the content of thought as much as possible. But other times, I will do a fusion of thinking and introspecting. Asking myself why I believe such and such a thing, and then observing it as closely as I can.

@Fishy Yeah lineage is irrelevant lmao. @Hermetics You might be right about some of the people here being retarded in their views about Mooji, but if they are retarded, accept they are retarded. (Not that I follow my own advice perfectly). Few things are more infuriating than watching a cult a leader so I have great sympathy for what you're saying.

@Moreira When one looks at his entire career on YouTube, I'd say he changed slowly over the years. But in addition to that, there was his first 30 day retreat he did which he technically failed but changed a lot after. And then he changed a lot as well after his successful 30 day retreat, where he had "13 insights".Not to mention the multitude of blog posts he's made which I found interesting in observing him more closely. To be honest, I have no idea if he's deluded or not. My view has always been that he makes claims and beliefs about things he can't possibly have knowledge of, but I stay reserved/open. Not about this love or god stuff (since I have had some taste of them), but just this very notion that one can get conceptual knowledge/insight. Like Leo has himself said, he's not achieved emotional mastery and embodiment, but has had high peak states. I reckon he's digging deep into deconstructing his ego, hence it's a form of dark knight that you're seeing from him. Perhaps the psychedelics and their interactions with him have scattered his energies into chaos and they haven't settled yet. https://www.actualized.org/insights/nothing-i-say-can-be-trusted

J Krishnamurti is good if you pay close attention to him.

Only in the past 2 weeks have I started meditating on the floor, with a mat/cushion. Before I used to just mediate on my mattress. I haven't been meditating for a while so when getting back into it I thought I would change things up and do yoga as well. My feet and lower half of my leg get numb to the point where I am literally unable to wiggle my toes or flex my foot. Is there actually any danger to this or is it fine? Anyone here know if it's fine or not? I've noticed that even by shifting my position ever so slightly, the numbness is greatly alleviated. But that isn't the point since sometimes you might want to stay still. I'm fine quickly after getting up standing up, but it's not like my sessions are a long enough yet to know if the numbness is to worry about (30 mins yoga , 40 mins meditation).

@Spiral Wizard How old are you? Because if you're young, your personality and perception of your own personality is even more malleable. Also, are you sure you even have an understanding of the concepts of introversion and extroversion alongside an understanding of yourself to judge what such things mean? Because to conflate being spiritual with being introverted might indicate an error in both your perception and conceptual understanding (not saying that you do, or that it necessarily does).

This reminds me, Ken Wilber talks about a third tier in his book. It seems to be some (or to be very, very highly correlated with a) fusion of psychological developement with non-dual awareness/enlightenment. Unfortunately though, his book is so extremely long and repetitive from the few chapters im into. 663 pages, with each page having a lot of words. He even has an extra 100 pages of notes, whatever that means. It's like he's trying to spell everything out to make it understandable and accessible. But anyone who's into this work and will get the most value from what he says is of sufficient intelligence and intuition to not need so much hand holding. I would write a book review for it if I was motivated to read the entire book despite so much repetition.