NoSelfSelf

@JayT79 ????

@Rishabh R This is all you need to know...

How can you have heartbreaks when you didnt have a gf you mean struggling?

What others ?

No thats the whole problem why self help wont work is because you are trying to go far away from yourself first you made all the assumptions about yourself that turned into beliefs and reality that you are lazy etc. second layer of assumption and beliefs what outside world told you who you are and third being somebody else and following someone and copying them its only gonna hurt more if you really want to change on the root of who you are.. What you are describing is cult mentality that got you believing what you are in the first place far away from yourself... You use them to find your version of that expression

@Siedah Explained it

@Eyowey Im looking if you are trolling haha

Never

You are the problem not weather cmon ?

@Eyowey You like a girl for whatever she says or does that must be the most self hating comment i read here ?

@Danioover9000 You are looking it that women is focus ,thats the first thing, you are the focus of the game not her...so your mind will go shop everywhere but in your own shop... @The0Self Looking for personal truth here that is seperated from truths of the world first then how my truth will find its way in the world @Jacob Morres And now you got in a trap saying purpose etc. is someone elses definition and perception so its not yours and is putting block to your authentic expression in the game this is one of my biggest things im working on... With that you will be dependant on someone else to help all the time, rather seeking just structural understanding and putting your unique you that is nowhere else on a planet out...thats why they say man needs to become of value he has to unleash it...

@The0Self I get that! most of guys have problem and being affected by "hot" girl which shows lack of game,you should see yourself as hot putting yourself on a pedestal + being selfish,only for yourself and your own way or nothing(which is a deeper process of rooting yourself in yourself by then getting trust in yourself aka confidence)...yeah narcissist have all the qualities that looks like someone embodying game but they are coming from deep shame and insecurity that backfires this is different... We described same thing but in different ways which we should! thats exactly the point of the thread having your own definitions and concepts for yourself following someone elses concepts is hurting to get rooted in yourself ...

@The0Self Hahaha second line sounds like Yoda mocking a padowan for discovering something so obvious.... this is funny ?

@The0Self And you add a little bit of sarcasam and you good to go @Ry4n Wow thats really nicely put,time and energy is given to those who earns it,have to keep that in mind...

@petar8p Just because you revelead something you shouldnt on front end, im not telling nothing, last thing im gonna tell you focus on yoursef....

@petar8p Pls dude dont put personal stuff thats between me and you here that is such a low thing to do any real life experience you had wont teach you to be a proper human being and i dont see you ever becoming one its a shame... I never claimed that i have game i also stated that im offering best perspective that i can find and you dont know what ive been doing for the past year... Only thing you are offering is how tough it is and that you cry over women i dont see how that helps anyone... You have a problem with me because your whole identity is im some kind of pick up guy that fools himself he has game and it hurts you when someone else tell you that. Guy with game wont be hurt by someone telling him he doesnt have game... Who is saying im underestimating this you are just seeing stuff... Further on dont talk to me ever in your life i dont need someone like you even over a text message....

@Danioover9000 Haha i fixed my grammer... There are millions of them for growth its crazy If you dont see it then thats okay,im not going to convince you its pointless....

@Jannes Dont ask women for dating advice ?

@Danioover9000 You answer that, for me its for the lessons it gives and self discovery...

@petar8p Surface level knowledge ? Such a patronizing fella Why do you even care what im doing lol

@mr_engineer To clarify it all whos making the purpose and goals of the relationship?

@mr_engineer and how would that look like?

Thats not the problem and being in the ego helps alot here ,not being in ego is what srews you over so you become red pilled because you make it all about the woman.... Market is bs because thats the thing that will determen how good you are for something and now they use that to put their ideology of hypergamy etc.

@Javfly33 Its more than that, its about becoming your own man independant of the world and woman,standing behind your principles and ways, like it seems to me guy these days doesnt have any of that, he will hear on internet soon to kiss a guy and thats the way to get a woman and follow it... Like in movie 300 Leonadis didnt kneel before xerxis(or how the name) he was promised to be the general and have endless gold but because hes a spartan and spartans never surrender and have their pride he died before kneeling... This days guy would put away anything just to be with a woman or get some play... @StarStruck You are not in your reality if you looking for what shes responding to you are in her world thats precisly why this what i wrote is important...you are in the world what can i do for a woman and not what can i do for me and see if she will follow that... And next thread i think i need to post how guys lie to themselves to be something but it seems once a guy always a guy... Edit:yeah closer to reality but by creating your own and then see how its gonna fit the "real reality" and from that making adjusments and not making women the point...

@The0Self when is it a best option?