NoSelfSelf

Its cringey because you think other people think its cringey and you dont want that so you hate yourself for doing that...but in the end when you think about it you dont care about it you care what people thought about you and want them to percieve you in some better way..

All is see is no interes from them... And you showing them you dont know what you doing

My point is how can you work on yourself when you actually dont know yourself? You can't!( Here im talking about illusionary self that helps you navigate the world)... There are so much people that ask for advice that doesn't even apply to them.How do you know which path to take?how to think?how to feel ?how to see the world how to eat etc. If you dont have yourself you will become thinking mind of Leo and wonder why you dont improve... If you are not completely focused on your own original thinking of creating your own personal world then you cant improve! You personal world for example how you gonna think about this topic how you gonna behave in this situation? Crazy part is you wont get right experiences to move you to your own personal improvement!! You gonna talk to that girl in the way you think she will like it instead creating your own way to talk to her and then you can get experience to upgrade your way of communicating if you dont have your way you will spin around in circles and become bad versions of who you follow ... It looks simple but check in im sure you will find you dont have yourself you dont know what to do and work on just spinning in circles jumping from one thing to another or its just me ??

@Danioover9000 what are you growing yourself into by doing nofap?

@Loba Its not changing yourself what im saying its building yourself on top of your own authentic self and potential you got as a birthright...if you are fine with what you have thats okay keep doing that thats the point...

@Emrie Great job ?? i know how that is ive been there you were like on level -5 and had to work hard to come to normal level 0 and now that you are hear what im trying to say, you know in general that you need to work on social skills but in what way you gonna go about it? in what way you gonna show up to the people in what way you gonna express your sexuality with a girl ?thats where the improvement lies in my opinion not just general improvement its shallow because you will turn into someone elses copy and mehanical being thats not gonna work and stick for long it will be a long hard manipulation and people pleasing...

@Omni Self help is toxic because it shows you you are not good enough as you are but rather you need all this to be something better than yoursel so you abandon yourself and try to be someone else rather working on your own stuff its how its applied and its applied toxicly... @Vincent S Process is to work on inauthentic self to get what you want which will always leave you feeling disconnected and that you are not really improving real process is going deep into your own ways of doing stuff and using self help as a little map to show you stuff but not become that map you become your own map!

You are alredy at a loss putting her above yourself no matter if you take her on the end of the world and back.... Edit:and putting things outside of yourself that will bring value to make her stay is a big no no disconeccted from your own self better queastion is what my inner world ill show her that nobody can? instead of what venue ill take her...

He hates himself and dont have love for himself to change it going on with the thread is pointless...

You should be deriving insights for yourself and not live leos life ?

Focusing on this bs wont get you any women ?

Whats the point of this thread?

Cut those people out of your life and make room for someone that values you!

Why do you care if he didnt respond it means hes not the person you are looking for simple as that...is good to be vurnable but trauma bonding is not for everyone...

@aurum Becoming friends? Thats worst possible advice you could have given.... so manipulative making yourself so below her and wasting your time and energy 3 big nos of the game?

@whoshearts She showed you what she is if you looking for relationship then 100% move on nothing to sort out here shes not for what you want...

@whoshearts Cool but she will do to you what she did to her bf you cant never trust her if you still wanna... go ahead ?

What success tho?

Evil is everything that doesnt serve you! but rather damage your self agenda the more damage to your self agenda the more you(ego)call it evil!

@Someone here I mean it wont work because of social anxiety start small then ? lol that what they want you to believe they are sexual alright my friend...

You tried 2 times try 100 then see if its not working every girl you see have had sex with a guy soon rather than later...

Things exist only if you think it exist..thats how mind is.... everything mind produces is taken to be true and then you say i experienced it like that...stuff happens only if your mind tells you without that theres no human experience...

Find a girl that likes that simple as that ?

At the end of the day you have to do both and why put happiness on anything happiness is happiness materialistic pursuits are materialistic pursuits.

If thats my girlfriend i would told them have a nice evening and just left or just leave without saying anything... She doesnt feel danger of losing you then this things happen.. Basically told you in drunk state how she views you sober for some reason dont know the whole picture so cant tell for sure...