Carl-Richard

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Be very careful in your investigation and try to see if have ever experienced a "non-experience". You're saying there is a discontinuity between going to sleep and waking up (which is true), but can you ever point to a true non-experience? Do you see the contradiction? You can only ever point to something within your own your experience, and therefore you can never point to a non-experience. Whatever you think you're pointing to that you believe is the non-experience of dreamless sleep, do you see how that is currently occuring within your own experience?

Unless he is genuinely curious and you're not pestering him with it, the odds of him even listening to what you're going to say is zero to none. You can't really argue people out of a stage of development.

To not trust your senses would be senseless, but you shouldn't trust your visual senses blindly...

You fear love because it will kill you.

All my friends from high school smoke weed everyday and just play video games, and when I was asked to rank Jordan Peterson on a scale from 1 to 10, they all gasped out of shock when I gave him a 7, expecting me to give him a solid 10. They're basically all in the entry phases of green but mostly stuck on cleaning up their blue and orange, mostly as a result of being drug fiends and getting their life advice and political views from rationalist reaction youtubers. There is this one dude I haven't talked to in a couple of years that I suspect might be closing in on yellow or even turquoise if he is lucky. If not, then he is most likely still a greenish pseudo-philosopher drug addict (low resolution Terrence McKenna clone) like we both were last time we met. You can't really change them by arguing your point of view. They have to evolve on their own. It's up to you whether you think they're worth your time or if you should rather find someone else to be around that don't atleast drag you down.

Does hunger depend on the mindset? No matter the mindset, the activity you're doing is still what it is.

Look at what I said more carefully. I said becoming the "number one" champion. To become the number one champion in mixed martial arts, you have to defeat every opponent that crosses your path. That is analogous to stage red imperialism. The only example you mentioned that could come close to that is becoming the best athlete. You may notice that the bulk of the examples you mentioned can be explained by other motivations than becoming number one, things like purpose in the case of stage blue, and becoming the best version of yourself at stage orange etc. The theme that defines the Red "number one" is complete and unrelenting domination and submission of ALL opposition, not as a means but as an end. Not that it's impossible for people in higher stages to participate in these things, but the activity itself is still Red. Things like hunger is actually stage beige.

The whole idea about fighting to become the number one champion is Red at the bottom of it all.

If you've followed his character arc for the last couple of years, it's easy to see how his recent development is a result of ego backlash. Does psychedelics -> goes into green, embraces feminity -> regresses down to blue, represses his feminity.

Oh well, this topic derailed into a heavy metal appreciation thread. Who would've thought?

Yes of course. No, but seriously. He is a gangster rapper. Nobody cares about what he has to say. For those that do, nobody cares about them.

I'm willing to argue that even the virtuosos over at Dream Theater are choosing to play low consciousness music even though they're obviously capable of pretty much anything. They're attached to their brand, the "DT sound". Their music is a matter of survival for them. It's very clear if you look at their reasoning process when picking the new drummer for the band.

@Epikur I think the problem you're getting at is more about who is saying it than what they're actually saying. If some ignorant villager are calling you dumb, you'll not value that the same way as a professor calling you dumb. You clearly know what they both mean, but you also know who you're going to take seriously.

Hahahaha Just kidding. Good for you . One thing you could elaborate on: do you feel that you grasp relativity? How do you relate/react to lower stages?

He is a musical artist, not a political figure.

Imagine doing all this just for semantics.

Are you saying all dumb people are mentally ill? Why not just call them dumb?

Elliot is the go-to example of ego backlash.

You're going to die anyway.

Dude why do you still misunderstand what illusion means? We already went over this. Illusion is when something appears as something it is not. The illusion still has to exist in order to be an illusion.

No you're just in denial. Distorted guitars, loud drums and aggressive vocals are inherently low consciousness.

For sure. Disposition, Reflection, Triad has some of the most beautiful moments in music ever. I get emotional even talking about it. Btw, have you seen this one? Such a good match and feel-good wibes