Carl-Richard

I mean, I haven't experienced that much psychedelics.

I wouldn't claim to know what Leo's idea of God-realization actually is.

I've never laughed so hard at a joke.

What goes?

What product?

I'm just saying how it is. If your source of comprehension of reality mainly comes from a drug experience which severely alters your state, then of course how you feel in your baseline state is not as relevant.

Only if you rely on drugs. If I feel like shit, my engagement with reality will be colored by that. Pain literally contracts your focus.

Leo "Have you tried 5-MeO-DMT?" Gura ?

Do the girl method. Save it for the weekend and make it special. Light some candles ?

A.I does not move like a duck or swim like a duck. It only quacks like a duck. It's a parrot.

Is it generated by the brain, or is it the result of being a living creature who grew up in a physical environment with nurturing parents and adequate food intake? Because wherever you can point to a normally functioning human consciousness, the latter is the case. In other words, we have no conclusive evidence of a human experience without a human body.

No he does not ? It's a joke.

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What you're really asking for is whether A.I. has thoughts, feelings and emotions like humans. That's like asking if a rubber duck has the same internal organs as a live duck. A.I. emulates certain very surface level aspects of human behavior, just like the rubber duck emulates the physical appearance of a duck. The full human experience is entangled in a complex system of biological and social structures with evolutionary and ontogenetic developmental processes. Coding some instructions into silicon is not that.

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I'm an old man, jk. I mean, we did have CD players back then, but when you have something like children's music on cassette, you use that instead of re-buying it in a new format.

I could agree with that. Debunkers often use many premises which partially concede some ground to the opposition which starts adding up as you add more premises, so his conclusion may certainly be inaccurate, especially when he is mainly dealing with quantitative rather than qualitative distinctions. I remember I used to look at pictures in the World Atlas at our house when I was 5, but I don't remember reading much in it. I also remember watching a documentary about the Cassini missions to Saturn's moon Titan when I was 5 with my father, and it blew my mind. The infinity of space and the immensity of Jupiter and Saturn was terrifying and fascinating. After that, I got an illustrative science book on astronomy for children, and I do remember reading in it, but I think I was maybe 6 or 7. My mom also used to read physiology and anatomy books with me. As for other formative childhood "stimuli", I've listened to music ever since I learned to walk and turn on the cassette player. I think I would listen to my own children's music every day. My mom also put a cassette player in my room with classical music on it for falling asleep. I think they really wanted me to become a musician lol. I got a violin at 4 or 5, but I didn't like playing it.

The literacy obligation will also have extra-genetic effects as well. Imagine a person who learns to read at 5 years old vs. 18 years old. The first person will have access to arguably the strongest tool for enhancing mental processing during crucial developmental periods, conferring extra-genetic enhancement of intellectual abilities. A culture that values literacy will skew towards early literacy, and as they have done so for millennia, they'll have built up a massive historical momentum of material and social inheritance (parents having high education is of course a big predictor for education rates).

Society generally fears Absolute Truth, because it's antithetical to many aspects of survival, so it will feed you subtle lies and traps to make you avoid pursuing it. If you're able to see past them, you might find the pathway to truth.

@Bobby_2021 31:59 This is why you don't generalize from individuals to populations

There is so much in here, it's incredible.

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@zurew Welp, it's settled then: Jews don't even have a higher IQ in the first place ? The disproportionate verbal intelligence is interesting though. Makes me think about... the literacy obligation ?

@lxlichael I don't get it.

@Tyler Robinson Ask Leo if he has marked periods where he has problems with sleeping.