Forestluv

Attraction to you is condensed into physical sex. There is a much more expansive attraction, love, consciousness. It’s not limited to picking up women and sticking one’s penis inside of them. This was explained in the other thread you started on this topic.

You already started a thread on this. Your question was answered and the thread ended up locked. Don’t derail other threads with this.

@Truth Addict On a more serious note, what comes to mind is to create a healthy micro-environment and spend time with those that “have what you want”. Observe them and observe within. . . I don’t have experience living in an aggressive/violent environment. I imagine this would present a lot of challenges and complicate things. To be honest, I don’t have direct experience of personal growth within a harsh environment. It would be easy for me to say “just do xyz like I did”, yet I don’t understand how to do that within a harsh environment.

Imagine if time and motion stopped in place for a million years and then started again. We wouldn’t even notice. . Or could we? ?

@Anton_Pierre You just described one of my trips while standing on a flight of stairs. Yet there were more than two realities. . .

Yes, if I relax and gaze, it appears.

Listening to this song, synchronized together with you all. ♥️ ? Our dreams, and they are made out of real things Like a, shoe box of photographs With sepia-toned loving Love is the answer, at least for most of the questions in my heart Like why are we here? And where do we go?

I wish @Leo Gura had Time to do a video on this topic ?

Beautiful genuine, curious, openness right there. ♥️ ?

@Truth Addict If you spot it, you got it. Did anyone guide Dr. Strange to a manifestation of his True Nature? So. . . I also am in a bit of a personal transformation dilemma. That rascal @Nahm won’t show me how to build a crystal grid that transcends nonduality, stage Coral and 5-meo. So I guess I better go create a grid without an instruction manual. I don’t know how to create it, yet I do.

Beautiful ♥️ I love the part about Yoga. It’s a bowl full of Goodness ? ?‍♀️

The qualifier of *real* happiness made me chuckle. I was just about to write something about happiness, yet I am unsure wether it qualifies as “real” happiness or not. ? ?

It arises as “trans-personal”. There is no “person” to take ownership or to identify with what is arising. There is experience without an experiencer. There are thoughts of the experience without a thinker. It’s not “my” experience or “my” thoughts. There is no one to take ownership of it. It’s all floating around passing through the mind-body. One can observe attachment and identification in the mind and body - just like one can observe thirst and hunger in the mind-body. Imo, trying to repress attachment and identification to reach an imagined transcendental state will cause limitations. I prefer to observe it arise as another form of what IS without judgement. Then it can be massaged away if desired. Yesterday, I was in a cafe with a friend telling her about how I was developing an empathic sense to heighten my sensitivity and how I relate to nature and historical buildings - like a sixth sense. She told me enlightenment is not experience or paranormal abilities and that I would need to let go of this type of seeking and identification to become enlightened. She gave me the name of a buddhist monk that could help me with my issue. . . This is the perspective of a personality trying to reach an idea of what trans-personal enlightenment is like. An idea formed from a whole lotta conditioning of what enlightenment is supposed to be like. . . From an unidentified trans-personal perspective, learning to communicate with plants is a fun way to explore humanness. It’s a natural expression of humanness. My human mind-body is not going to fly in the sky singing bird songs. That’s not how humanness is expressed.

Perhaps his video was so *expansive*, the limited framework of YT couldn’t handle it. ??

The same collective effect as stirring up an ant hill with a stick ?

This gets into a nuanced area, imo. Direct experience is profoundly insightful. It can be more expansive than the personal story and interpretation. Yet human minds contextualize their experience, that’s what human minds do - it’s part of the human experience. No other living organism on earth contemplates and contextualizes their experience. It can be beautiful. Yet any contextualization of experience is a condensation of the enormity of the experience. Imagine visiting the Grand Canyon. The first time you see it, you are awestruck. Speechless. You lose all sense of self and time. Completely immersed’ present and aware of the expansive enormity of what IS. . . Then the habitual mind returns to contextualize this profundity as a personal experience. It may wonder about evolution, hod and how it was created. It may wonder about all the beings that have visited this place for thousands of years. It may imagine how the Grand Canyon is a metaphor for life, it may compare the beauty of the GC to other beauties it’s seen in it’s life, it may sit and try to express it’s magnificence in a poem, it may ponder how this experience has changed their life. . . That’s just what human minds do. A donkey in the Grand Canyon won’t do this kinda stuff. There’s nothing wrong with the contemplations, contextualizations etc. It is a beautiful part of the human experience. There is no meed to repress it or reject it. Just be aware of what the mind is doing and if the mind becomes attached and identified to the experience. As well, sometimes it’s nice to turn that stuff off and just admire and appreciate, without any editorializing and contextualization. To just Be. Yet be careful of trying to reach a “Just Being” state as some type of enlightened nirvana because all the contemplations and contextualizations are within Being as well.

Distinctions are relative. Worst-Best is a relative duality. In it’s simplest form it is a relative linear spectrum from “worst” to “best”. For example, drinking apple juice is much better than drinking arsenic, yet a little bit better than drinking soda. Rather than trying to find an objective, absolute answer to your relative question, I would focus on what your body is trying to communicate to you and I would be open to the input from others that resonates with my body. Get in touch with your intuition and deepest feelings - that is your highest guide. For me, I like to think of it like climbing a mountain. There is the destination of the mountain top, yet if I focus purely on the mountain top, I will miss the whole journey. Having a goal or destination is great, yet so is what is happening right Now. From another perspective, the journey of Now is the destination. Yet don’t reject one for the other. They go together like yin and yang.

This is certainly something the thinking mind would like to figure out, isn’t it? Why might that be? ? I’ve found this question to be a key to transcending the personality. Without this key, the mind will encounter may blocks and resistances. For me, this awakening is not to be had in intellectualization and debate. Rather through intense detached observation. From where do thoughts arise? Am I the author of my thoughts? Who/what is the chooser? During meditation, observe intensely with these questions in mind, yet don’t go off into la-la land of thinking and figuring. Observe and the deeper insights will arise.

@Javfly33 If those terms and categories work for you, great ?? Fun stuff to explore, however we call it or categorize it ?

Direct experience is a way of being, learning and becoming. It is a key to both personal growth and personal transcendence. Yet experience can also become a thought story that the mind and body becomes attached to. The ego loves to take ownership of an experience and personalize it. “Wow, I just had an amazing no dual experience. I am making great progress. I am at a higher level than that person now. This is what my mystical experience means. . . What my friend needs is a nondual experience like mine to help wake him up. My experience was more mystical than his experience.” . . . And on and on and on. . . I would say attachments / identification to personal experience is deeper than attachment / identification to impersonal theories. Yet they are inter-related.

@Aakash All of those thoughts stories are within what the mind and body seeks. What is Now. Yet, it’s very easy for the mind and body to become immersed, attached and identified to thought stories. Here, there may be lack of awareness that thought stories are appearing in infinite eternal Now. Personally, I find a basic structure of conceptual grounding to be helpful as grounding for the mind and body. The subjective experience of intense groundlessness can be demanding and stressful on the mind and body, Yet the mind has a tendency to seek refuge and stability by immersing itself in concepts and becoming attached and identified.

@cetus56 You betcha. Looks and feels kinda like an ant colony to me. I imagine the impact stirring a stick wold have on the consciousness of an ant colony. . . . What if we threw in a couple sharks? What impact would that have on the human colony consciousness?

@Javfly33 Sounds like a flow state. One can enter deep states of being whole running. And not just nondual being states . . Heightened creativity, introspection, awareness etc. Ot can be a great form of meditation for some people ??

Whatever the mind and body says it means. There is no universal objective meaning. Sometimes creating thought stories about meaning can be practical, other times it’s fun, other times it is disturbing to the mind and body. And sometimes it’s nice to give the thinking mind a break, let go and go with the flow. I would say manifestations of synchronicities to the person is the Universe’s way of saying “nudge, nudge - wink, wink” to itself.