Forestluv

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@SQAAD Nice work on the contemplations. Just a suggestion: when you are out in Nature journaling, try pausing and just be in Nature for a bit. Feel it. Absorb the energy of Nature. It nourishes the mind and body like vitamins.

@Serotoninluv One other thought that came up. If your mind insists engagement with the concept of solipsism, what would happen if you let go of identification and just explored it? Human minds are conditioned to think in opposites. It may think “I have to choose between solipsism or it’s opposite: not solipsism”. This puts a lot of stress on the mind and body. Such opposites are constructs of the mind. If your mind insists on conceptualizing it, you may find that aspects of solipsism have value and can be integrated with aspects of nonduality, reincarnation, the LOA etc. One could also observe the direct experience. When thoughts of solipsism arise, what is the experience? Are the thoughts related to feelings in the body? Which comes first; the thought or the feeling? Are the feelings bothersome? Curious? Could you convert an uncomfortable feeling of a solipsistic thought into a curious feeling?

The mind and body crave a sense of grounding. One way to do that is through creating and immersing itself into thought stories. There are other ways as well. One of the most difficult aspects for my mind and body is the sense of groundlessness. I let go into groundless and it can be uncomfortable to the mind and body. Then, there is a pausing to form some grounding at this deeper level. Some people call this “integration”. Then more groundless may arise at a deeper level, followed by integration into grounding. Yet there is only so much groundless the mind and body can accommodate, depending on it’s maturity and developmental level. Too much groundless too fast can be counter-productive and harm a mind-body. Yet too much grounding results in attachment and identification to that grounding. The mind and body can get “stuck” in a grounded state and choose the discomfort of attachment/identification to the grounding over the discomfort of groundless. Part of groundless is there are no guarantees. A guarantee is grounded. One needs to let go of that guarantee to expand. Once one expands, they are unlikely to return to the same grungy toilet stall. If they do, the trap isn’t nearly as powerful because you’ve expanded beyond that. You are no longer limited to the perspective of being in the stall. You can access a more expansive perspective beyond the stall, that includes the stall. As if you can now observe it from the outside. The person may re-enter that stall and become immersed into it. Yet having the more expansive perspective has immense power. The mind-body may be in the stall for weeks and suddenly realize “Whoa!! How did I end up in this stall again?”. Then you can observe the impact of mind-body conditioning and the sneakiness of the ego. The frequency, duration and intensity of the stall keeps diminishing if we do the work. That is one dynamic I’ve gone through. It’s also possible to have a “one and done”. There is an absolutely clear realization and release. And that’s it. To me, these are rarer and I would call them “Grace”. In terms of personal development, there are other toilet stalls along the path. Yet I’d say on average they get nicer - and with each surrender and ground-groundless cycle, there is a flow that arises and ground-groundless start to integrate. And it’s not just about toilet stall traps. There is much much more. At times it’s great to focus on toilet stalls, yet if one becomes contracted within that, they will miss the magnificence and magic. There are times we need to take a dump in a toilet stall, yet let’s not miss out on the music of the concert. ? In terms of absolute - it is nothing/everything. Yet even saying that is too much. And if we get a good look at absolute, we still live as a human. The show goes on.

@AudibleLocket It’s context dependent. Weed can be beneficial in certain contexts, harmful in certain contexts. It depends on the situation and person. For me, weed can be a helpful tool to relax the mind-body for certain insights and spiritual practices. For example, I’ve found weed + yin yoga is a great combination for me. Yet I’ve also found weed to be highly habit forming and my mind-body may desire it a bit too much, especially when the mind-body is feeling uncomfortable and wants to be in a better space. For example, I went to go on a nature hike last week. I was feeling a bit uncomfortable and disconnected to nature. I wanted to relax and feel at One with Nature. There was a desire to smoke some weed and get into that space. That’s fine on occasion, yet what happens is that the mind-body becomes conditioned. Sober becomes uncomfortable and stoned becomes comfortable. If that pattern keeps getting reinforced, dependency arises. That’s just me. Other mind-body’s have different relationships to substances. Observe your relationship with weed and reality. Get in touch with your body snd listen to what your body is trying to communicate to you. Your body may be saying you are in a good rhythm, flow with it. Or it may be saying you need to teak things a bit. Only use weed in certain situations, times, cut back etc. Your body is a wise sage.

So now the story becomes: I’ve randomly reincarnated to a person trapped within a toilet stall that doesn’t want to regress into sticking my head into a toilet. You can add lots of stories into that movie. Or you can walk out of the toilet stall. It might not be easy and it may be scary to leave the toilet stall. Yet it can happen if you want it to.

You aren’t regressing to an ant. You are unaware that you have set the bar of potential to ant. In the concert analogy, that is like locking one’s self in a toilet stall and believing the toilet stall is all of reality and thinking “Looks like it’s possible to regress to sticking my head into the toilet and drinking piss water. How depressing”. There is lack of awareness of all that exists beyond the toilet stall. There isn’t even awareness that a concert is taking place.

@Pouya Going from the conscious level of an ant to a human, then back to an ant can be s bit of a bummer. Yet you are contextualizing it from a view if limitation, rather than that of potential. Yes, expression of infinity through a human mind-body has limits, yet you are nowhere near those limits. It’s like being contracted within 0.1% of human potential and saying “I’m in a limited human mind-body. This sucks”. Yet you are limiting yourself to a tiny fraction. It’s like being at concert and locking yourself in a toilet stall and saying “Concerts suck, I have to live trapped in a toilet stall”. That is a tiny tiny fraction of the concert. Get out of the toilet stall and explore. There is enough to explore to keep a human busy for a lifetime.

@DrewNows I’ve been exploring reconditioning my mind/brain/body and think you raise a really good point. It is really tempting for the person to defer to what it views as authority as well as get immersed into thought stories. For example, a person may be trying to figure out their anxiety and get rid if it. Geneticists may say there is a genetic component, psychologists may point to environmental inputs, buddhists may point to attachment and identification, nondualists may point to a form of transcendence. They may all say “this is what your anxiety is and what you need to do”. It’s tempting for the person to get immersed into that. All of that information and perspectives can be helpful, yet what I’m finding is that there is much much more. . . The deepest insights for me arise while observing the dynamics of the mind and body play out in real time. One is like an absolutely clear crystal observing the appearances within the crystal. There is observation of the anxiety appear. The bodily sensations, the mental thoughts, the linking of past memories and future thoughts. The continuation if previous experience. The desire to move from one place to another. Observing how the mind and body is conditioned, yet without creating new thought stories that the mind identifies with. In this clear place of observing/being I’m finding it possible to “massage” out mind conditioning/block/framework- similiar to massaging out a tense muscle. Yet I’ve also found that in a state that transcends the personality and can clearly view mind-body dynamics - the concerns that are very important to the person (such as relieving my anxiety), might not be so important anymore. In terms of reconditioning the mind, I’m finding a “trans-personal” space that views the mind-body from “above”, yet not to the point of “trans-human”, where the awareness to healing one’s own mind-body dissolves and awareness is expanded toward healing all of humanity. That’s a great space too, yet one still “returns” to one’s own conditioned mind-body and realizes there is still reconditioning work to be done at that level.

@John West I’m not quite clear where you are at. Could you give us a real life example of this general place you are in? It could help to get a better sense of the bigger picture of what’s going on.

@Nivsch Centered in yellow, the mind will try to figure it out from below. Turquoise is not an intellectual thing like Orange and Yellow is. It’s more like a beingness. You Be Turquoise and then are like “Oohh, so thats what its like. How can I possibly explain this?”. . . If you want a quick peek at Turquoise, take a psychedelic - a relatively strong dose will dissolve the yellow thinking mind and allow space. Yet the mind will try to contextualize it when it returns. That’s the challenge (referred to as “integration”). Yet one good look is golden. However it comes. It can be a game-changer because there is now a reference for grounding. As well, there are many forms/expressions of Turquoise / similar to how there are many forms/expressions of Orange.

You are all of reality. Beyond personality. Beyond human. Everything, infinite reality. An attempt to contextualize that into a form a human brain and mind can “understand” may appear as a religion to some human minds. Don’t take my word for it. Find out for yourself. Become all of reality and then try to contextualize it human form.

One doesn’t need to stop masturbating for self actualizing work. You describe it as an “addiction”. If you feel like it is interfering with aspects of your life, you could try cutting back some and see how it goes. If you don’t feel like it’s interfering with with your life, then I wouldn’t worry about it.

Yes. Just keep posting comments here. You can keep it private and ask for little input from the forum, or you may like other forum members to post in it. Whatever your preference

One would stop looking at women as sexual objects, let go of seeing life events as it relates to meeting their sexual desires and expanding one’s capacity to Love. It’s not something you can simply read on a message board. I would recommend watching Leo’s video on Love. See if it resonates with you. If the video doesn’t resonate with you, great. Then ditch it and move on to something that does. Perhaps Hulse, Emerald, or AMS would resonate with you. Or perhaps a combination. There is no thing you “should” be or do. Be your genuine self and pursue your genuine interests and wants. As well, it isn’t a dualism between sex love and sexless love. A guy could want a relationship that involves a lot of sex - yet also wants a meaningful component of emotional connection and personal growth together. Another guy may want 2-3 casual sexual relationships without any emotional attachments. Another guy may want occasional one night stands. There are all sorts of relationships. It’s not like there is one “best” relationship. Follow your genuine desire. In terms of guys in their 20s wanting to pick up women, I don’t think trying to act like Eckhart Tolle on a date would be the best strategy.

Through the lens you perceive the world, it is true. You can take responsibility for that lens, or keep looking trough it - believing your creation.

Your “how things are” is distorted by a filter that is explained, in part, in the OP of the thread I linked to. You are using physical sex as the measuring stick of “power”. That paradigm is contracting you within an orientation. It is a lens determining how you perceive your world. The world becomes centered around women and sex. . . Is developing a healthy body worth it? Well, how is that going to help me get laid? . . . Is developing character and integrity worth it? Well how is that going to help me pick up women?. . . If I learned to cook, would women find that attractive? . . . Spirituality, Love, Value, Kindness, human interactions etc. will be seen through a filter of how it relates to personal sexual desires. . . You would need to transcend that paradigm to expand. I’m not saying anything is “wrong” with being contracted within a paradigm, it’s just contracted. Similar to how a hard core scientist is contracted within a scientific paradigm. Thinking within a paradigm will not allow one to transcend that paradigm. If you want to pick up women and get laid like Julien, develop those skills and go for it. The orientation of spiritual growth is not to use it as a tool to reach sexual organisms with women. It’s a very different orientation.

Attraction to you is condensed into physical sex. There is a much more expansive attraction, love, consciousness. It’s not limited to picking up women and sticking one’s penis inside of them. This was explained in the other thread you started on this topic.

You already started a thread on this. Your question was answered and the thread ended up locked. Don’t derail other threads with this.

@Truth Addict On a more serious note, what comes to mind is to create a healthy micro-environment and spend time with those that “have what you want”. Observe them and observe within. . . I don’t have experience living in an aggressive/violent environment. I imagine this would present a lot of challenges and complicate things. To be honest, I don’t have direct experience of personal growth within a harsh environment. It would be easy for me to say “just do xyz like I did”, yet I don’t understand how to do that within a harsh environment.

Imagine if time and motion stopped in place for a million years and then started again. We wouldn’t even notice. . Or could we? ?

@Anton_Pierre You just described one of my trips while standing on a flight of stairs. Yet there were more than two realities. . .

Yes, if I relax and gaze, it appears.

Listening to this song, synchronized together with you all. ♥️ ? Our dreams, and they are made out of real things Like a, shoe box of photographs With sepia-toned loving Love is the answer, at least for most of the questions in my heart Like why are we here? And where do we go?