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@CelticQueen17 I wouldn’t place too much emphasis on thoughts. The real action takes place prior to thoughts. By the time thoughts arise, the train has already left the station. Getting in touch with energies/frequencies/vibrations/feelings/intuition/essence is much closer to the action than thoughts. Even images are closer imo.

@Annoynymous Ime, a key has been to regularly break out of my conditioned state of reality. That which my mind-body assumes is real and feels grounded in. Psychedelics are a sure fire way, yet I have found other ways as well. 1. Lucid dreaming. With practice, I’ve been able to semi-lucid dream (both sleeping and awake). The distinctions between “unreal” dreams and “real” reality can dissolve. For example, “real” memories and “unreal” dreams begin to collapse and all become dream memories. 2. A cannabis edible and a sensory deprivation float. This has brought me to far away imaginative realities as real as “normal” reality. A cannibis edible and 6+ hours in nature - away from ALL human interaction and technology - has also done the trick. 3. Four+ hours lying in nature. I like to lay under a tree on a breezy day or on a lake beach, close to the waves. The sound of the wind/waves and staring at rustling leaves relaxes and deconditions my mind. For the first hour, I focus on the details of the wind/waves. There is A LOT of sound detail we filter out. It becomes like a symphony. Then I imaginative realities as real as any other. Listening to nature recording don’t work for me. I need the real thing. These experiences are like putting on a VR headset into another reality. After enough times, one realizes that the “real” normal reality is just another type of VR headset. Yet, it can be very destabilizing, frightening and ungrounding to the mind/body at first. It can feel like one is losing their mind, well because they are. . .

I think that would be an interesting social study. If hatha yoga centers provide a supportive orange to green transition environment. Ime, mainstream yoga classes associated with academic campuses, gyms and workplaces tend to be more orange-centered. More oriented toward health, fitness and personal image. The instructors may mention stuff about balance, harmony, flow and being in the moment, yet it’s pretty light. And many practitioners conspicuously tote around their yoga mat as they mention they did Power Yoga this morning and will do Pilates tomorrow. The smaller, private, intimate yoga classes and retreats seem to attract more green-centered practitioners.

Gotcha. My hunch is that they were upper Orange transitioning to Green. In American politics, those that are solid green are the progressive left wing of the democratic party. They are fueling the opposition to trump. Examples include Sam Seder, The Young Turks and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

I wouldn’t consider them centered in green. A fearful person centered in green would find security in a candidate at a higher conscious level than trump. And how many Green American trump supporters have you met at meditation retreats in England? . . . That’s like spotting a polar bear in the Grand Canyon of Arizona. Seems odd.

@Gadasaa Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m not an expert on the psychological classification of DP disorder. I was just sharing more of an imagination from my experience.

You are placing conditions on what is good from a human perspective. (good = human happiness ; bad = human unhappiness). That is relative goodness. Perhaps spend some time deep in nature with no humans around. No human happiness present. Yet you may sense a deep essence of nonhuman happiness and goodness. Absolute Goodness is not limited to humans.

I doubt it for someone centered in green. That’s like saying a green going on a yoga retreat may choose an alcoholic yoga instructor that chain smokes and has a restraining order for domestic violence . . . if the green has lower stage shadow issues. . . Unlikely.

@Libiin For me, the subjective experience of depersonalization feels disconnected. It is a type of self awareness trying to separate from the personality structure and body. It’s a fragmented self. For example, to seek relief from an uncomfortable experience/memory. In contrast, “not self” is an expanded consciousness intimately connected to everything: trees, birds, wind, barking dogs, cars etc. This expanded consciousness would also include thoughts / feelings within the mind/body if they arose. Yet there is no identification/attachment, so such thoughts/feelings would have no more relevance than bird chirps.

Fake vanilla is some hard news to swallow. What next? You guys gonna tell me maple syrup is fake too?

What’s the best route to Here?

Nearly twice as much sugar. Lemons are 70% sugar, yet the acetic acid overwhelms the sweetness.

Avocado has highest protein content of all fruit. Cabbage is 91% water. Cherries are a member of the rose family. Lemons contain more sugar than strawberries. Honey is the only edible food that never goes bad. Eggplants are fruits and classified as berries.

Permanence requires a construct of a timeline. Now is eternal. It is all there IS.

@Wekz Perhaps the mind and body is processing and resolving some negative stuff. I hope you are well. ?

@Natasha That photo looks so wonderfully 1980s ♥️

@Shaun Ime, one key is to surrender to whatever is happening now. It can be extremely difficult at times. I know. My mind-body has been going through a suffering dynamic recently. There are actions one can take to relax the mind-body and provide relief, yet absolute freedom is Now. Letting go of the thought stories and just being Now. Listen to the body and become One with the environment. It’s difficult because of the desire for an imaginary better now, that is not Now. At the human level, I’ve found activities that relax the mind body to be helpful. And connecting to others in meaningful and loving ways.

I’ll be making the fruit smoothies ? ? ? @Aakash I wish you well, unconditionally, my friend.

@Nahm From what I’ve read, it’s a roughly 1:5 ratio for fresh truffles - so about 20g dried shrooms. Much more if they are dried truffles. @Conrad It is a reckless, irresponsible dose. As Leo stated in your other thread, please don’t discuss reckless irresponsible use of psychedelics on the forum.

You betcha

@Mikael89 You have access to the source. Now is the best teacher. Spend time in nature, let go of thought stories and open to receive that which is freely Now. Just be and observe nature. She is an amazing teacher. Theories tend to be too complex and keep the mind in thought stories.

J@John876 Thanks for the links. Two weeks ago I suddenly started remembering my dreams every night. Yet I haven’t yet been able to enter lucid dream states. I also find it interesting the similarities between sleep dreams and wakeful dreams (of thought stories, memories and imagining). We assume our wakeful thought stories of life is “real” and dream stories are “unreal”. Yet that duality is breaking down the deeper I go. Most of these dreams have been kinda boring with some type of moderate anxiety. Like I need to get somewhere yet can’t get there. I wish they were more profound and spiritual/mystical in nature. Yet, perhaps I’m not appreciating the profundity. I’m thinking about asking a question and setting an intention before I go to sleep

Haha, yes ?

The ego likes to fragment itself into a “Good ego” vs “Bad ego” dynamic. It allows the ego to stay relevant and keeps The Game going. Good ego says “I need to be in control or Bad ego will run riot and cause harm!!” . . . It’s all within human personality thought constructs. Fundamentally based in survival instincts.

The below video from Leo’s blog is great for those learning about absolute and relative. It is simple, yet profound. The tendency of a thinking mind may be to dismiss it as too simple and the mind may want to analyze. Yet if one can relax the mind, simple direct pointers can be very effective in promoting insights. https://www.actualized.org/insights/absolute-infinity-demo