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Forestluv replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That sounds beautiful. I haven’t seen that yet. I love both crystal and rainbows. I bet that would supercharge my grid. ? ? @Aakash One word is too many, a trillion words is not enough. -
Forestluv replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You seem to be drifting off into a storyland of thoughts. Such meandering can be fun and keep the mind entertained, yet it’s not the point. -
Forestluv replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There is no question. You made it up. -
Forestluv replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I used to think that clear crystal was the best. That is was the “real” crystal. I would seek the clearest crystal possible and was bothered by defects in clarity. Later, the crystal itself was revealed. It wasn’t about the absence of cloudiness and inclusions. There is a realization of the underlying crystal essence, which may include cloudiness and inclusions. -
Nausea is a side effect to varying degrees. The only time I’ve purged is during an Ayahuasca ceremony - with pretty much everyone else. The leaders stressed that this is part of the medicine and healing. For me, there was an aspect of a movement toward pure love with the purging, yet it didn’t resonate with me as being necessary or some type of key to unlock a block.
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Forestluv replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Like the gopher in Caddyshack -
Perhaps magnificence, extraordinary, magical
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@assx95 I think his best foundational video is “65 core principles for living a good life”.
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Forestluv replied to Gili Trawangan's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Gili Trawangan Nice insights ?. You might be interested in @Faceless old posts. He wrote a lot about movements of thoughts. -
Forestluv replied to Natasha's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Forestluv replied to ardacigin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@electroBeam Perhaps you are particularly in tune with your environment. Someone immersed in a spiritual setting and community may naturally resonate and have mystical experiences. The same person may later get into a relationship with a narcissist and naturally resonate with that and enter some unhealthy psychological dynamics. It would seem natural talents would interact with environment since they are closely related (and both within the same whole). -
Forestluv replied to ardacigin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I’ve got a friend who says she’s always been oriented backwards from most people. She was always oriented toward perceiving nondually and had to put effort in learning duality. Stuff like creating a character within a timeline and relating to people and things with a clear sense of separation. She’s noticed many people these days struggling to understand and experience nonduality (and even take drugs to do so). This seems odd to her since for her nonduality is more natural and she has to work toward duality. Just being in her presence elevates my resonance by about 20 ug of lsd. It may seem like a spiritual gift, yet it’s also seemed to cause a lot of practical difficulties in her life. -
Forestluv replied to d0ornokey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@d0ornokey To me it sounds like a dosage and balance issue. The higher the dose, the more potential there is for experiences to arise that are difficult to integrate and can be destabilizing. Many of my higher dose trips were whacky and destabilizing and I reduced dosage. Many of my moderate dose trips yielded insights and expanded my perspective. Rather than a goal of “experiencing God”, I would explore having non-dual and mystical experiences. These are quite amazing. I would bump the dose up to the 20-50ug range a couple times. In this range, one is still grounded, yet can explore nondual experiences, like a collective conscious. And tons of insights, wisdom and inter-connections can be revealed. And it probably won’t trigger a major destabilizing identity crisis. . . .Perhaps combine it with mediation or time in nature. It may satisfy your curiosity. If you get grounded with this, you may want to try upping the dose once. Nondual experiences are common at low to medium ranges, depending on the person. Higher doses surely will, yet I would not expect to have a pure clear “god-conscious / absolute infinity” experience by dosing high. I’d say I had about 30 trips or so of many nondual facets before I had a pure absolute infinity type experience. -
Forestluv replied to ardacigin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I’m imagining moderately talented people who are right under the threshold of a mystical experience / revelation. Perhaps they have mediated a few months and have caught a few mystical glimpses that didn’t seem to stick. I wonder if microdosing psychedelics could boost them up to the highly talented group getting mystical experiences weekly. My sense is that there is a decent sized population of people that might resonate well with micro/mini doses. They might have a strong aversion to regular doses, yet be open to a min-dose, especially as it becomes more accepted and mainstream. -
Forestluv replied to Geromekevin's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Not at all. Yellow can use various modes including blue binary, orange logic and yellow relativism. As an analogy, a carpenter can use a screwdriver, hammer or saw as needed. They can use whichever tool is appropriate for a given situation.. One mode is not “superior” to another. Rather, it is a course of development. People learn algebra before calculus, yet they don’t stop using algebra when using calculus. Similarly, people learn binary thinking before logical thinking, yet they don’t stop using binary thinking when using logical thinking. However, someone centered in blue will struggle with orange level logical thinking. This is obvious to someone proficient in logical thinking. It would be like If a handyman was trying to cut a board of wood with a screwdriver - it would be pretty obvious he didn’t know how to use a saw. -
Forestluv replied to Geromekevin's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
A core component of Yellow is an understanding of relativism. Based on your responses of the article, you don’t seem to have developed this understanding. I view this as the major limiting factor in my discourse with you. You seem to primarily use a blue-level binary mode, are unstable with orange-level continuums and are unaware of yellow-level relativism. In particular, you seem locked into a binary perspective of “same vs different” within a single context. Within this context, I didn’t disagree with most of what you said. The problem was being restricted to a single binary context and being unable to see meaning within multiple relative contexts. Each time I asked you consider degrees and contexts, you remained anchored in a binary mode. I’m unable to discuss the results and conclusions of the article with you in a restricted binary mode since I believe your relative interpretation is partially inaccurate. For those that would like to watch relevant yellow-level videos, I think these are good: “Sameness and difference”, “ recontextualization “ and “what is relativism”. This is one of the most important aspects of yellow level thinking. Green has a basic understanding of moral relativism. Yellow’s understanding of relativism is much broader and deeper. -
Forestluv replied to Geromekevin's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
@GenuinePerspectiveXC I didn’t say to read all the references cited in the article (no one would does that - that would be insane)., I recommended you read the article you linked. It’s only a few pages. To me, you don’t seem interested in exploring what the data reveals. You won’t even read and critique the article you yourself linked. You have taken a couple statements from the abstract and contextualized it into a particular narrative and refuse to examine this (even when the authors of the paper you linked warn against the contextualization you are using). Scientific abstracts are not a substitute for the article. Similar to how movie-trailers are not a substitute for the movie. Also, I would recommend reading the article with a critical mind. At times, science authors over-state their conclusions or describe it in a way that is not clear to their target audience. There is a peer-review system, yet stuff can slip through, especially for review articles. And lower tier journals often have a weaker peer-review system. If I was reviewing the article you linked for publication, there are a few critiques I would have for the authors to increase clarity. Don’t assume scientists are authorities on every matter. Many scientists are poor technical writers and some have pet theories they are attached to. I’ve been to science meetings that turned into blood-baths of debate . . .So read critically and evaluate. If you evolved beyond progressive, as you suggest, you would be at stage yellow. To me, you don’t seem to be expressing a yellow mindset. -
Forestluv replied to Bryanbrax's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A great video. She is at a high conscious level. Too high to win for now. Yet, I’m glad to see her voice in the conversation. I hope the “woo woo” caricature of her fades and she gets a position in a new administration if dems win. A short vid of MW on Face the Nation today -
@FredFred Understanding and empathy ♥️
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I watched a spider weave an intricate web on my kitchen window. So amazing.
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A great exercise I’ve done is each day take a couple of minutes to realize the extraordinary in the ordinary. For example, I might be walking by some ordinary wild flowers in nature. I’ll pause and for a few minutes closely observe. I begin to notice all sorts of amazing things. The color patterning, the integration of symmetry and asymmetry, the highly detailed and intricate structure, it’s relationship with pollinating insects, it’s energy and essence. It’s impossible, yet happening. I’m blown away by the extraordinary nature of the ordinary. I’ve found intentionally doing this each day for a couple minutes has opened up doors and helped my sense of appreciation and well-being in life.
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Forestluv replied to krockerman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@krockerman “What is the default state of happiness when you become enlightened?” This contains a condition: when you become enlightened. It also assumes there is a thing called enlightenment a person can get. This thought story fuels energetic seeking to attain something a mind imagines that it doesn’t currently have. Personally, I’ve found it helpful to drop “when” and the imagined object of seeking. For example, “what is the default state of happiness in whatever is happening here and now?”. -
@Zec It’s generally a good idea to practice some meditation prior to a meditation retreat. Meditation retreats often have multiple meditation sessions each day. This can be a lot to handle for someone who has little experience with meditation. Some meditation retreats are intended to accommodate beginners. Others are more appropriate for people with experience.
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Forestluv replied to ardacigin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Like a sneaky squirrel ? -
Some nice insights at 7:55 onward about relativity and identity protective cognition.
