Hardkill

for several years now, the progressives have loudly protesting until they are blue in the face, have been doing political activism like crazy all around the country, putting in 110% of their efforts in running for all kinds of various offices from the local levels to the highest national levels all throughout the country, trying as hard as they can to pressure Democratic leadership and Congressmen to pass more liberal legislation, etc., etc., etc. that they have been doing. Sure, the progressives have now become the largest House Democrat ideological caucus in Congress, and have recently won a few more local races in some big cities like Boston. Yes, Bernie gave Hillary a run for her money in the 2016 and gave Biden a run for his money in 2020. AOC, has indeed become a popular liberal amongst young voters in America for a few years. Yet, none of the progressives have been able to achieve anything materially for any American citizens. Other movements in history such as Gandhi's movement nonviolent independence movement, abolition movement in the 1800s, both the progressive movement women's rights movement around the turn of the 20th century, the civil rights movements for blacks in the mid 1900s, the latino movement in the mid 1900s, the gay rights movements all succeeded with their goals. But why hasn't the contemporary progressive movement in the US been able to make any real significant progress for many years now? Will the progressives be able to win in the end, but we just to wait for many more years until they finally achieve success, or the establishment democrats and conservatives right about their movement having become a totally hopeless cause?

That's definitely true. Besides Trump winning the election, the other unusual thing about that election back then what that Both Hillary and Trump were arguably the two most unpopular and most polarizing presidential nominees ever in US electoral history.

Are you serious? You don think former presidents Reagan, W. Bush, and Trump were not morons leaders? How about congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green and many of the other right wing politicians who are in many powerful positions in our government.

Scott Morrison, who is the conservative Prime Minister of Australia just lost the election to a centre-left candidate named Anthony Albanese. This is another victory for 1st world countries. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/21/australia/australia-election-results-morrison-albanese-intl-hnk/index.html

Indeed. Just like with Al Gore in 2000, had there been no electoral college, then Hillary would've won by a lot. Also, I am not trying to suck up to you, but I really think that both of your videos on Inside the Mind of Trump and Democracy vs. Authoritarianism, were much more accurate, intelligent, and perceptive on why Trump won the 2016 election than something like Corey Wayne's vid was. Yeah, he definitely is at stage Blue/Orange. Btw, I loved seeing this vid he made after Trump lost the last election: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE-pTQl-Haw He really believes in the conspiracy theory that the Democrats stole the election. One the one hand, I didn't think that he was as stupid as the MAGA zombies were, but on the other hand, I knew before he put out this vid that he was gonna bought into it the whole idea that there is "evidence widespread of voter fraud" in the election simply because he genuinely believes that Trump is some kind of self-made business genius and is the most alpha male president we have ever had.

From both a rational and pragmatic viewpoint, you're right that I should really just be focusing on what I can do myself. I gotta admit that that is actually what my parents have been telling me for several months now and I never thought that I would end up becoming so addicted to following politics. I know you keep saying that we are going to have for at least a few decades before the progressives prevail but do you think it's possible that their movement could be a lost cause given the fact that for decades none of their ideas have worked at all to materially improve the lives of everyday Americans? Also, how likely do you think we'll ever have another period of historic reform like we had during the Jacksonian era, Reconstruction era, early 20th century progressive era, New Deal era, or Great Society era?

I saw that vid back then and that really made me extremely disappointed with him. He may be a successful self-made entrepreneur but he obviously is a very myopic libertarian who lacks deep compassion and is as backwards as rednecks are.

I am surprised that Biden said this. This announcement does sound somewhat alarming, but he didn't specifically say how the US would militarily intervene.

So, then her being creeped out by what I said has nothing to do with her thinking that what I said was too taboo or that she's afraid of coming off as a slut?

My ex girlfriend was fine with it. Some girls like it and some don't. Just like some guys don't like it and some do.

Some of the new ones may come into power.

This is very sad. Many more American Christians have lately felt so threatened by the idea about their ideology dying in our country, that they feel like they have no choice but to resort to the lowest of right-wing scums in the USA to "save them."

Yeah, I wish that the Democrats in America genuinely tried to support the working class again like they used to in the old days.

Indeed. We need more leaders in the world who will contribute to the much needed progress of our world.

Well, I could live with progress being slow as long as some progress gets made and eventually leads to massive change overtime. Btw, why do you think that corporations financially benefit by separating themselves from bigotry? Also, why do you think that Republicans ended up failing in their culture war against homosexuality?

During the Progressive era, Muckrakers, people who were reform-minded journalists, writers, and photographers, were able to effectively expose corruption and wrongdoing in established institutions to all Americans. This majorly helped the progressive movement back then to put enough pressure on the government to fundamentally reform the entire system in order to strongly curb monopolies, the growing power of big businesses, stop employers, and political machines, stop employers from abusing and exploiting their employees in various ways, meaningfully address the uncertainties in the economy, give women voting rights, regulate the health and safety of working conditions and goods, etc. I know that liberals have already been trying their hardest bring public awareness on all of the systemic corruption we've had since over the past 50 years such as the corporate lobbying, military-industrial complex, growing economic inequality, voter suppression, gerrymandering, our democracy declining, racial and gender discrimination, etc. But it seems to me that no matter how much the progressives and even some establishment democrats publicly shout out to the American people about all of the serious problems that have been created by all of the corporate lobbying we have had in this country, it still seems like most Americans are either still not truly understanding it well enough or they simply don't really care. So, what more can be done to show all American people how atrocious something like corporate lobbying or the military-industrial complex has become?

It looks like though that those movements sadly didn’t end up working for them.

Then how come the muckrakers' widespread exposure of the systemic corruption in America were successful back then? Why was witnessing enough of the evils of slavery during the abolition movement able to successfully compel enough of the public and the political elite in America to quite literally fight like hell to outlaw slavery forever? Why was the national coverage of all of the nonviolent protests, marches, and sit-ins for the civil rights movement all worked to successfully pressure LBJ and enough Democrats in Congress to pass the historic 1964 civil rights act, 1965 voting rights act, and Civil Rights Act of 1968 for all black and brown people?

I agree with all of that. So, do you think that the reason why the progressives haven't been able to succeed yet is because their movement is still way too small and weak?

I am not just worried. The more I realize how many problems our society has the more depressed I become. Plus, the more I follow politics the more upset and indignant I become with conservatives as a whole for constantly trying to stop any kind of progress from happening and for causing way more lives to be lost in America in the long-run than liberals. Also, I am feeling very discouraged by the fact that the progressives have never been able to get anything done for our country and that we are still living through a painful regressive period.

It is sad that the US has so many roads that absolutely need to fixed and improved. Hopefully, the new BIF law that just got passed will be able to help solve much of this issue.

Yeah, but from what I understand movements like the abolition movement were able to incrementally make some kind of concrete progress for society in some way every 5-10 years until they successfully completed their ultimate objectives. The progressive faction in America was established in the early 90s back when Bernie first became a far left member of the House of Representative chamber, and so far I haven’t seen or learned of any real incremental progress that any of the progressives have ever made since then. Am I wrong?

I guess, he has become a double edged sword.

Idk. No offense, but that kinda sounds like a cliche.

Jordan Peterson and others like him must be so proud of themselves for being to successfully help stop much needed progress in 1st world countries, while millions of people, especially countless Americans continue to suffer or die unnecessarily because of what they have been listening to from figures like JP.